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Biller is down (back up now)
#21
recycling is legal. so get use to seeing me use it a ton.
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#22
It's funny to watch Gad cry when he doesn't get his way. Endless amusement.
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#23
not crying. just making a statement.
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#24
[quote name='Gadianton' timestamp='1302194065' post='274523']

recycling is legal. so get use to seeing me use it a ton.

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Noone said it WASNT legal ..... so go ahead ..... and youve already mentioned your 'options', so im not sure why youre saying it again ? <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' /> Just to reiterate that youre 'crying ?

So in case you missed where i referenced your options, ive reposted it.

But i wonder if [Esc Q] or ship changing to avoid deaths ..... by which you artificially affect stats (which seems pretty important to you) ..... would fall under 'cheating' ? <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unknw:' />

But then again, youve already used multiple-computers, for various other reasons to 'cheat' and nothing was done ...... so chances are nothing will be done anyway. Which would explain why you continue to do it <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />





[quote name='Jazz' timestamp='1302192469' post='274521']

[quote name='Gadianton' timestamp='1302125864' post='274484']

I'm guessing that turrets will just Ship change in open space since when the hunters come after them because they are mad that they are [size="4"]not allowed[/size] to Spend hard earned bonus points when they need them. Hmmmm I wonder which Option will make the hunters more Mad?



Option A: turret runs away with bonus points, 1 hour later hunter gets to kill turret with 4,000 bounty

Option B: every 1/2 hour the turret when out of toys or under pressure ship changes in open space so Hunters Never get a big bounty kill.



Building macro to Esq Q and Ship change right now baby......

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But anyway …….

Option A …. use the same bonus points to assist in running like hell if anyone so much as turns your way (even when it’s a 4-man turret on 1 <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> ).



Option B ….. youre already pretty lame as it is, why change now ? And btw, if you guys DO want to ship change (or even Esc Q), that means you’ve either been chased out of the zone like a coward (which isnt a big deal to you because thats the norm) and/or youre no longer on your turret … you need to green … and the rest of the zone will probably swarm and kill you ANYWAY <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> I know you won’t really mind if we all ignore all other targets and just keep killing you repeatedly …..



Option C ….. it seems like you’ve been allowed to cheat REPEATEDLY and gotten away with it so far. Apparently its ok. But who knows, maybe at some point you’ll be banned <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />

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And Ethy ..... he ALREADY did get his way. So he found that it works ..... therefore, why change <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />

As long as he cries, he doesnt need to actually do anything else <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pardon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8)' />



[quote name='Ethylene!' timestamp='1302198678' post='274530']

It's funny to watch Gad cry when he doesn't get his way. Endless amusement.

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#25
man, and here i was thinking it was DSB players who loved rhetoric
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#26
[quote name='Gadianton' timestamp='1302194065' post='274523']

recycling is legal. so get use to seeing me use it a ton.

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[quote name='Nude For Satan'][quote name='Gadianton']3. Picking up greens is TOOOOO HARD for hunters. What we need in this zone is an ATM machine. You go up, and shoot the ATM and then my ship will be full of toys. I shouldn't have to work at greening, that's stupid. My mommy thinks it's dumb also. Greens help turrets more then hunters. Remove greens from the zone, hunters don't need them. All i have to do as a hunter is ship change and get a new ship with the toys i want. If i don't get a ship with rockets and burst i just instantly ship change again. As soon as i ship change and get a COOL ship i then rocket the turret and slam into it trying to kill it. However if a turret recycles for toys lets yell and scream and ban them.[/quote]

3. Toys are too easily gained through greens, bonusing etc, agree. Would rather the bonus system be scaled back than removing greens tho. Means there is still some actual legwork involved in gaining the toys. I think you SHOULD have to work at greening. Hence scale back bonuses and let people green their toys more than gaining them through automatic means.

*actually good point inside the sarcasm here from Gad* - how about, when !fullship becomes available, its time to make !sc tougher. !sc only from safe, too?[/quote]

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#27
[quote name='Jazz']But i wonder if [Esc Q] or ship changing to avoid deaths ..... by which you artificially affect stats (which seems pretty important to you) ..... would fall under 'cheating' ? <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unknw:' /> [/quote]

Its very very lame but for purposes of action taken, is not considered cheating. On a ... umm ... layman-term, I guess ... basis, yes I would call it cheating. But its not actionable.

However, there is a reference amongst the rules to acting in a way that is detrimental to the zone in general. I would consider that this falls under that heading. Personally I would like to see this be actionable. Its more complicated than that (don't ask me to explain because I don't fully really understand every part of it from A to Z), though.



[quote name='Jazz']But then again, youve already used multiple-computers, for various other reasons to 'cheat' and nothing was done ...... so chances are nothing will be done anyway. Which would explain why you continue to do it <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> [/quote]

My understanding is that this is incorrect.



[quote name='Jazz']And Ethy ..... he ALREADY did get his way. So he found that it works ..... therefore, why change <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />

As long as he cries, he doesnt need to actually do anything else <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pardon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8)' /> [/quote]

I gottah get back to that thread shortly to continue our argument. Apologies but I'm squeezing it in with work. But in short, this is also erroneous. It might have worked out handy for Gad that the resultant action was how it was, but Gad & Co did not force the result.
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#28
Im not sure what part you think is incorrect ?

The multiple-computers was already mentioned by two admins ..... and what was done ? Hes till DOING it. <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='8)' />



But anyway ..... if you want, msg me. But i think we're going to have to agree to disagree <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unknw:' />

Beyond what ive already mentioned in how things played out, and the lack of info and the RESULTING appearance, there are other reasons that make that appearence seem likely that i may tell you in pvt if you want to discuss <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />
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#29
[quote name='Jazz' timestamp='1302278264' post='274557']

The multiple-computers was already mentioned by two admins ..... and what was done ? Hes till DOING it.[/quote]



Yes it was, something was, and no he's not afaik.
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#30
Why do people get upset about others using various legal aspects of the game to their advantage? I especially don't understand why this thread turned into a flame war against Gad.
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