04-06-2013, 09:53 PM
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ImDigs" data-cid="287119" data-time="1365185250">He's talking about the fact that Candyman, in the past, has often subbed himself or another Requiem player that was 0/0 LL during a practice, then proceeded to change ships and say it's an allowed fullsub. That is apparently legal, despite the bot distinguishing it as an illegal ship change, but subbing in burned on a different alias after dying out is worthy of a 5 day ban two weeks after the fact.
It's quite laughable, but not really.
I see.
In that case I see nothing wrong with Candyman trying to simulate events that transpire during a match (using one full sub - completely legal in a match). What Rage was just banned for isn't allowed in a match.
I also think all lag outs should be burnt in a practice (just like a match). The idea being that there aren't enough staff members to police whether or not a player intentionally lagged themselves out to either not die or lose items. Max lag outs in practices should be set to 3 (looks at Macuto and shakes his head), just like a match. Time limit being 30 minutes instead of 45 I understand.
It seems counterintuitive to have practice rules differ from match rules when the entire purpose of practicing is to prepare for a match.... but hey, that's me.
Cheers.
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Lag out limit at 3 was previously set. People would just get a new alias. Thus it was removed.
And prac rules just... are different. And you should not "emulate" fullsubs, just like no one "emulates" a match lag out.
And Legacy is gone for three days for subbing in for the opposing team and suiciding out. http://www.svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=113835&season=0
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But you just banned people that are bypassing the rules to sub back in under different aliases, so that shouldn't be an issue. I would say people lagging out 10+ times and coming back each time with their item list is far more of an everyday problem. Furthermore, if people know that the penalty for subbing themselves after max lag outs is punishable by ban, they aren't going to do it unless they're just ignorant. Heck, just do the simple thing, punish the laggers by removing their items. At least that's a start in the right direction.
Also, how is admitting that someone is cheating by doing "fullsubs" in practice not being punished? You witnessed it, as have others, more than likely many, many times. It shouldn't take a "log" to prove anything when you're witnessing it first hand.
Or you could just decide to not ban either person since this happened in a practice and really didn't affect anyone or anything in the grand scheme of things. I even say that about Legacy, which is one of the people that I dislike the most. There are far greater problems in this zone/arena than people subbing in after they died (i.e. abuse of !forcecap). People subbing in after they've died out isn't segregating or deterring the population which has a direct impact on league's longevity.