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  Public Service Announcement
Posted by: saiyan - 07-14-2019, 06:27 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Important info for 1-2 teams participating in the next season of peeking duck league:

Nacre banned until June 30, 2020.

Please contact our league sysop to get thorough background checks on all of your rostered players. You need to make sure he is not hiding among you.

You certainly dont want peeking duck waiting until the playoffs to convert all of your matches and troll the league.

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  New Season (S45) Squad Sign-Ups
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 07-08-2019, 10:40 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (2)


It's time to get a new season underway so sign up your squads here.  We're looking to start pre-season matches on 28 July, roughly three weeks from now.  Let's get it on...

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  Season 44 Playoffs: Matches scheduled for 2019-06-30
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 06-27-2019, 10:04 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Matches scheduled for 2019-06-30

Season 44 - Pro Finals Match 2 @3pm ET (BO3 SFE leads 1-0): The Dark vs StarFire Elite 4v4a 1333266

Season 44 - AML Finals Match 2 @3pm ET (BO3 Rockit leads 1-0):Rockit vs Peeking Had 1 Job 4v4b 1333267

Game 3s **if necessary** to be played immediately after

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  What are you doing Peeking?
Posted by: saiyan - 06-21-2019, 01:56 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (8)

Let me just preface this by saying I'm not convinced you have infallible proof that scag is a-virus. If you have nothing to hide, post your entire investigation - methods and findings. For this post I'll pretend you do have solid proof.

Regarding how you're handling the results, there are multiple levels of fuckery at play. You need to take a serious look at yourself and what you're doing.

Topic 1: Faulty assumptions

Knowledge of someone's identity doesn't put us at fault. Knowledge of the illegal action would. You assume (based off pure hearsay) that our team knew scag was a-virus and use that as justification for penalizing the team. There are so many problems with that:

1. It's impossible for us to know to who he is.
2. He never said he was a-virus at any point in time.
3. Even if we did know (which we didn't, we only suspected it), it wouldn't matter because what you're looking for is awareness of his illegal actions;
4. WE DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT DATES AND DURATIONS OF BANS HANDED OUT BY YOU AND HALLUCINATION. Thus, we thought a-virus' ban had run its duration and he opted to play under a new name. I shouldn't have to type this, but the general consesus is that players logged into the zone aren't banned.

Topic 2: Poor application of precedents

If you want to apply preceding penalties, you need to consider the totality of the cases, not just one detail. You should find a case where a team unknowingly registered a banned competitor and he played multiple games without anyone recognizing him. It doesn't happen. Not catching him immediately would be a legendary failure on the part of the league administration. Thats what you've accomplished here. Realistically a-v would never have been on the field because he wouldn't have been registered. Take accountability for your shortcomings.

Topic 3: Mismanagement

This could have been resolved quickly and with minimal damage. Your inability to identify him in a timely manner and your poor decision making blew the problem way out of proportion. You're handing out penalties for a problem which you are partially responsible for. It is your job as a league admin and sysop to check the eligibility of all players in your league at the beginning of the season and continually as they are added. Thats how it works in every zone in subspace. If you're too busy IRL to be the league admin, the answer is simple - dont be league admin anymore.

The league is now absolutely broken. Not because of scag or A-V, because of you.

You had 2 objectives:

1. Remove the supposedly banned player
2. Eliminate his impact on the league to maintain its integrity

But you screwed up #2. Surprised a lot of players and made them feel trolled, like they wasted their time and effort. Destroyed the standings and caused a shitshow resulting in SFE being in the pro finals. Everyone suffers now. TD will have the most meaningless participation trophy in SS history, winning the "pro" league finals vs arguably the worst team in the league. Your legacy as league admin will now be "the guy who put the final nail in the coffin."

You should have done the following:

Approach every team that played against scag and ask if they want to re-play the matches. If they do, you set it up (allowing only the players who were rostered at the time the match was played). If they dont, its obviously for good reason. I'm pretty sure (almost) none of the teams would want a rematch. Everyone would be happy, and the league's integrity would be preserved.

One more thing. Scag was recruited from SFE. Had we left him there, would you be making the same decisions now? I suspect we would never hear about this...

Topic 4: Dictatorship

Are you here to serve the community, or dictate the league according to your will? If the vast majority of the community has a problem with something you did, you probably did something wrong. Try being diplomatic. Stubbornly defending your terrible decisions doesn't make you a good leader. You now have a team boycotting the league and you dont see a problem with it. Whats more important here, the league, or your power over it?

Topic 5: Conflict of interest

If you skip to around 2:10 in the video below, we can see our beloved league admin saying some awful things about the community hes supposed to serve:


(Peeking+)> Seriously though, 95% of the remaining population in this zone are the dregs of human society
(Peeking+)> the sooner they're euthanized the better

And now, a couple months later, he's acting against the best interest of a community he wants dead. Shocking.

Please note: the fuckery is exponentially greater if there isn't solid proof. I hope there is. Waiting for it.

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  Low self esteem administration
Posted by: Scag - 06-21-2019, 12:42 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (2)

Peeking duck you are cancer to the Subspace community.

Why the hell would you ban me on some strange, baseless accusation? I don't even know who the hell pet virus is or what he did but that has absolutely nothing to do with me! Are you all mad? What's the obsession with this guy and why am I being dragged into this without any warning? Rojo made up a rumor because some guy took his name. It's ridiculous and very unprofessional to take someone's word without doing any investigation. A simple look into who I am and background should be more than sufficient proof to see that I am innocent and wrongfully accused. I have never threatened anyone or even argued with anyone online. Ever! You guys are a bunch of weird cunts abusing mod

Eveyone is correct about you. You are a very fragile man and this is just an excuse to eliminate the PH1J squad from being able to win and cement the squad name in the A1.

Pathetic and unbelievable.

Good job losing a loyal player over your insecurities.

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  Season 44 Playoff Matches scheduled for 2019-06-23
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 06-20-2019, 08:32 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

Playoff Matches scheduled for 2019-06-23

Pro Finals Game 1 (BO3): The Dark vs StarFire Elite 4v4a 1333140

AML Finals Game 1 (BO3): Rockit vs Peeking Had 1 Job 4v4b 1333141

Bezbozhnik have decided to boycott and as a result, forfeit their semi-final to SFE.

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  Unable to Enter Zone
Posted by: Scag - 06-20-2019, 03:37 AM - Forum: Chaos Discussion - No Replies


For the past week I haven't been able to log into Chaos. There's an ID error that pop-ups on the screen or the ship just loads without ever entering the arena.
This seems to happen no matter
which zone I attempt to enter. I reached out to a few players on discord and they seem to be able to log in with no issues.

Any help would be appreciated.


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  Season 44 Regular Season Final Standings
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 06-16-2019, 08:40 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

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Pro Playoffs:

The Dark has a BYE for the first round.
Bezbozhnik vs Starfire Elite (BO3): Winner to play The Dark in Pro Finals

AML Finals:
Rockit vs Peeking Had 1 Job (BO3)

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  A-Virus Banned and Wins Vacated
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 06-14-2019, 11:55 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

A-Virus has been banned as a result of his continuing efforts to circumvent his original ban. He has been playing under several names, most notably 'Scag', who is rostered on Peeking Has 1 Job.  His ban will be for 1 year from today.  The reason I am taking steps to explain this to you is that his actions have a deleterious impact on the league.  His original ban was because he made *real* death threats to two players wive's and/or family.  This is not only a breach of the zone rules, but more importantly is a violation of federal law, one which the FBI now takes much more seriously.  He is very lucky we decided not to report him.  However, since his original ban almost a year ago he has routinely tried to get around it, with his ban being extended each time he is found under a new name.  He insists he was only joking but that claim does not hold up under the lightest scrutiny. As stated previously, this is a genuine Federal offence which the FBI takes seriously whether or not the intention was to act. The first link is of a case identical to this one - despite the FBI realising the perpetrator had no intention of carrying out his threat, he suffered terrible consequences and was lucky to not be charged.



A-Virus/Scag has played in 5 matches this season for his team, all of which were wins. I will be vacating those wins based on voluminous precedent in sport history, both professional and amateur. As a result, Peeking Had 1 Job (PH1J) record has been affected by turning 5 wins into automatic losses as you can see from the updated standings in the picture above. I realise some of you might not understand all the rationale behind this decision so I will do my best to elucidate below.

1.  Aren't you being harsh on A-Virus?  No. In fact, we are being extremely lenient in not notifying law enforcement. Think about it this way: How would you feel if someone made a real, and serious threat to harm your wife or children? More importantly, he expressed knowledge of knowing where one of the persons lived. A one year ban is the minimum punishment for such behaviour. Even el poopie was banned for a year and served his ban, then came back. Evidently, A-Virus feels this does not apply to him.

2.  If you knew he was back, why didn't you ban him sooner?  I had been told Scag was A-Virus a few weeks ago, however, neither hallu or me had the free time at that point to trace his every move and look for the empirical evidence needed to assure it was him. Although the verbal tips came from trustworthy sources, it still required us having hard evidence to match his several names together. We were able to do that recently as we finally had time to track it all down and confirm.

3.  Why punish the whole team for one person's indiscretion?  There is literally too much precedent with regard to vacating wins in cases like this. All you have to do is search and you will see in every major and minor sport, this is the method used to punish the team(s) using ineligible players and also to preempt potential future violations. Ask Pete Carroll. 

4.  But what if their team didn't know it was him?  A) Their team did know it was him as I had received tips from senior players on the team which drew my attention initially, B) It is the captain's responsibility to asses and check any new players wishing to join their squad. What if it was Gruntster or el poopie? This is captaining 101 and I can think of more than a few times I had to ask mods about 'new' players wishing to join Symphony, only to find out it was someone undesirable or someone with disingenuous intention. The captain could have asked me at any point to check on the 'new' player had they wanted to ensure it wasn't an attempt to deceive them, but there is no reason to ask such a question if you are already sure of the player's identity.

5.  You are only doing this because you don't like that they made a squad name about you!  Not really, seeing as I was the one who approved their squad name and entered it into the database so they could build a roster. Had I wanted them to change it, I could have refused to begin with, or changed the name at any time. I honestly couldn't give two shits about their team name referring to me.

6.  You should have given us more lead time on this issue as it changes the standings too much!  I wish I could have, however, the demands of a normal life prevent me from being in game 24/7 to micro-monitor potential cheaters. I do my best and I am alerting you now, which is the first time I've had the bandwidth to follow up on the initial leads.

7. As a result of the corrected standings, the match between Rockit vs Starfire Elite is for the #3 seed and final playoff spot in Pro.  Seeds #4 & #5 will play in the AML Final for the Solar Hydro Cup.

Please see the updated standings at the end of this post. They are accurate as of today 14.06.19 @ 14:00 GMT


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  S44 - Rd 10: Matches scheduled for 2019-06-16
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 06-13-2019, 10:03 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Season 44 - Round 10: Matches scheduled for 2019-06-16

Season 44 - Round 10 @ 3pm ET: Rockit vs StarFire Elite 4v4a 1332988

Season 44 - Round 10 @ 4pm ET: Bezbozhnik vs The Dark 4v4b 1332989

Peeking Had 1 Job vs BYE

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