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  Season 43 Full Schedule
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 08-01-2018, 01:39 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)


Below you'll find the Season 43 Full Schedule.  With regards to an 8th team, there was a some talk about giving the remnants of BIA a special time slot that was more suited to their needs, but unfortunately we couldn't agree on one in the end.  Hopefully those players will still play in some capacity. Otherwise, I hope this schedule will help everyone try to plan their lives accordingly in advance of each week and I will still make weekly schedule threads as reminders.  Speaking of reminders, rosters will be locked at the halfway point of the season and as of right now captains must message me either in game, through a PM on the forums, or PM on Discord.

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  S43: Pre-season Round 2 Predictions
Posted by: Baby Khul - 07-26-2018, 10:47 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

Tragic news for Season 43 as B.I.A. has been removed from league. As a result, we now have a second round of pre-season with three matches on Sunday. Perhaps a miracle will happen before first round begins with a new eighth squad to enter the fray. Let's keep our fingers and toes crossed until then.


I am sorry to say, but this is going to be a straight up massacre. DDPM, being one of the top 3 teams of this season will make short work out of SFE. 

Final score prediction: 12-2 DDPM


Definitely the match of the week right here. Godkiller obliterated Llamas 12-2 last week, and The Dark destroyed DDPM 12-6. Expect this match to go the distance. I feel that The Dark has the best offensive teamwork this season, whereas Godkiller is slightly more passive due to well, it's a new team afterall. Mr. honeybadger will need to give a fuck and summon forth his strongest line up to stand a chance at defeating The Dark. I'm curious to see how Godkiller will respond to The Dark's ship composition of warbird, weasel and duo terriers.

The Dark line up: YELLOW HAMMER, Da Monkk, Legacy, JackMove [sub] blink
Godkiller line up: honeybadger, KriLYu, Ra, Arctos [sub] Explisive, T-C-B

Final score prediction: 12-8 The Dark


The third and final match of the day, team personality vs team....pet me. Unfortunately I'd have to say this too, will be a one sided victory for Sterling. Roster-wise Llamas can field a formidable line, but none of those players have been active thus far. Will the brothers from different mothers bick and Ojo be able to pave the road to success for Sterling, or create the first upset of the season instead?

Sterling line up: Rage, odak, Varsity, bick [sub] Ojo, Tool, traxx
Llamas line up: Retroaction, Dagger, Kejami, fedu [sub] Psyanide, Street Fighter

Final score prediction: 12-4 Sterling

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  S43 - Rd 2: Pre-season schedule
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 07-25-2018, 09:03 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Yeah yeah, I know I said we would only have one round of pre-season matches but with BIA dissolving and a few other issues cropping up it's best we go one more round.  Perhaps it will give us time to sort out an 8th team - there's certainly enough players for it if the will is there.  Symphony will take the bye for this round and of course everyone knows that having an odd number of teams ensures a bye (two actually) for each team during the regular season.  I'm currently working on getting a full season schedule made so people can plan their lives accordingly, however, with the fluid squad situations it's a bit difficult. I will get it done though and will post both here and in Discord.

Sunday, July 29th, 2018

Rd  2     3pm ET  StarFire Elite vs DDPM  4v4a  1325936
Rd  2     4pm ET  Sterling vs Llamas        4v4b  1325939
Rd  2     4pm ET  Godkiller vs The Dark   4v4c   1325940

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  Season 43 Preseason vids
Posted by: Gruntster - 07-23-2018, 12:19 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

they be posted chirrens  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgl1Z3R2q9iJ5u1c0-J0MoQ

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  Three's shitty Season 43 Pro League Analysis
Posted by: Three - 07-22-2018, 07:20 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (5)

So a few people asked me to write this up. After giving the other post a quick glance, while I appreciate people who aren't involved in league at least trying to spike some sort of interest, I decided it would be in the peoples best interest, and perhaps mine, initially, to give at least from my perspective, a somewhat informed preview of the squads who are in pro league this season and what could happen.

Note: Rosters move and change, people have real life obligations, and that will cause squads to lose based purely on personnel showing, so yeah, shit happens.

Another Note: I didn't proof read this so I'm certain there are some spelling and massive grammar issues. Who really cares?

I also have heard BIA may be out of league, but I wrote this fucking thing out so I figured I would post their section anyway.

On to the squad write-up stuff.

Brothers in Arms (B.I.A.)

BIA, a team with a very storied history and a playoff staple team, is back.

Current roster: Sika, Tunahead, ossi, Candyman, Odin, BugKiller, Hook, Jinxi, Sabrewolf, Menteroth

Analysis/Comments: Menteroth, to my knowledge, hasn't actually played Subspace Pro League since season 5 or 6 (ish) or so, when he and Legacy were on Devil… not sure why he is rostered but perhaps he will be active. Sika, the x-radar toggling game pad Madman. This guys a fucking animal and not to be trifled with. Good luck winning gun duels against him, but you can portal him basically any time. A lesson he never learned. Tunahead, a student from I believe the Addicts and Intrepid school, is no joke when practiced, don't test him on offense. Ossi is not to be fucked with, a great player who does it all, and drops some damage. J Candyman, AKA Gilgamesh, a storied dueler, has lost his way in the new generation. He used to be a top ranked pro player before my time and even a top Quake3 dueler, but hasn't been able to find his footing in the new league generation. He needs to step up and not lob to be taken seriously, to have any real impact in games, and to honestly not hang his team out to dry (stop trying to Leviathan you're fucking horrible in it, stick to the Warbird and attack). Odin, Bug, Hook, Jinxi, Sabrewolf, it's been a minute since I have seen these guys really play. Sabrewolf, despite the incorrect spelling of his name (see Killer Instinct game), can hold his own on the defensive end and a bit on offense, but activity, along with the rest of the aforementioned crew, is questionable. Jinxi, hasn't been the same to me for quite some time and I still blame him for ONE's season 7 loss against Quality Control in the semi-finals, denying a Requiem-ONE finals. Hook/BugKiller, other players from the Addicts school, can be lethal if practiced, but need to find their form.

Dream lineup: Sika, Tunahead, ossi, Hook, first sub: I guess BugKiller assuming everyone is 100% warm? This team is VERY weak at the 4th spot currently assuming all are active and assuming all currently show, the 4th spot would be the target instantly and would be apparent 5 minutes into any real match against a decent team with 4v4IQ.

Suggestions: As much of a racist and a pain in the ass Caerbannog is, you guys need him as your 4th, in a real ship (Warbird). Also it wouldn't hurt to add fedu although he's fodder without support and even then I now have my questions about his play. Where are the likes of Megaman, Captor, Pilo, bhang, and other old EGO/Addicts players, etc.? Get on it BIA captains.

Damage Dealt per Minute (DDPM)

A new team, the brainchild of Ozn and Three, under an undetermined name initially, enters pro in an attempt to re-balance league and birth new life into this game.

Current roster: FUEGO, Ozn, idiot box, Buny, develop, Psycho, 2, Euripedes, hedcase8, designator

Analysis/Comments: My overall look at this team, no, not based on fucking E-rating, HERP DERP, is that this team has the potential to win pro outright. This is not a team, should everyone show and be warm, anyone wants to meet in the post season. As much of a headcase as FUEGO can be, he is a VERY good player. Should he keep a lid on things, watch out. Ozn, a dear friend, from the legendary ONE, BEFORE our current league even existed, using many names, Love You, CHARGER, etc., has seen it all, played and beat the best before most of us knew what a pussy was (via Sheeba table leg photos). Idiot box, sorry bro, pretty sure you're blur and I'm putting it on blast, if I'm wrong, so be it. A darkslayer, great pro and powerball player. A bit more on the defensive side than I would like to see sometimes but teams do need that balance so it does work provided you have the correct lineup. Develop, another friend, sick on the offensive side, a guy you DON'T want coming after you, a little loose sometimes and will try to take on too much, go into corners, and toggles antiwarp so portals can be used against him. Buny, I think he is Dreamery, solid player, comes from The Dark, if warm, he will be a nightmare for people to face on the flanks. Psycho, who comes from the Presence, Intrepid, Elements school is in my opinion, when he's SOBER, the most under-rated player in this league. You don't want this guy playing against you come Sunday. 2, someone who I have given ample shit, is one of the best duelers, but needs a higher resolution and needs to stop having tunnel vision. If he had my 4v4IQ, I don't think he would die, ever, but we have yet to see that day. Euripedes, is still a bit of a loose cannon, needs to use items better, stay with the team, but actually a pretty cool dude and can make an impact when it matters if he focuses. Designator, season 20 HUGE, won't be that active this season come match time but is a great starter to force reps, get a few quick kills, keep pushing the pace, and sub right before the full-sub marker timer expires. Hedcase8, even keel, getting better in pro (from IML), and yeah, he could buy all our assets out right with a snap of a finger.

Comments: Activity Sunday to Sunday may be a little dodgy, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Dream lineup, if everyone is warm: Ozn, Psycho, develop, Buny, first sub: FUEGO for develop - changes all depending on who this squad is playing against as idiot box fits much better against certain teams, and certain lineups.

Suggestions: Ozn already knows what to do. Manage personalities, then win. Psycho to SC to Weasel late game to finish off opponents.


Another new team, that wouldn't be branded as a team of old, split from the team originally created with Ozn in hopes of both re-balancing and expanding Premier League so league can survive and grow.

Current roster: KriLYu, honeybadger, Ra, ivf, Storm, DarkDenizen, T-C-B, Arctos, Explisive, Hendrix, Malstryx

Analysis/Comments: Jesus christ I'm only on squad number Three, no pun intended? Fuck me man. KriLYu, aka The Village Bike, great player, has had serious success and failure in the post season. He was a solid late addition to this squad and can pay serious dividends. A Sterling and Outlaws/FTN product, KriLYu, with the right support, can be lethal. Ra, a Rebels/Outlaws product, and great powerball player, has found his stride as of late in Pro League; he isn't someone you want to cross. His team work has been an eye opener, and someone who can be depended on in any situation. ivf, a Trench Wars God, displayed his talents in his Premier League post-season debut last season, in the finals no less, where he dominated Outlaws, showing what he can do with a little direction and faith. He is among the breakout candidates for this season. Storm, the content Fin (is that possible for Finnish people?), another last minute addition to Godkiller, has some serious untapped skill, and isn't someone you want to get up close to. He will turn heads this season. DarkDenizen, an old friend and Diablo 1 companion, has returned to Subspace to play once again, a product of various squads including Outlaws, DD has the will to deliver when called upon and will always keep everything on an even keel. T-C-B, aka Fury from ONE, like Ozn, a product of one of the best competitive squads in Pro League history, is back, and is ready for the opportunity to produce on the pro level once again. Arctos, an old squad mate and solid player, has returned and "got his 40 lb. monitor out of the fucking closet" to play subspace again. Welcome back! Hendrix, a ReDS player of old, is making his way back into pro league, working out kinks in his setup, and is eager to contribute. Malstryx, aka Palin, a former member of various squads including Devil and darkslayers, a true powerball talent, is now active and will be making his mark this season. Explisive, who comes from various squads, ReDS, RaDaR, Betrayal, Critical Mass, etc., is the king of the follow-up currently in Pro. He carried that torch on Critical Mass's run to the finals, and carries that torch into his return to pro this season. honeybadger, AKA Three, well, honey badger doesn't give a fuck. 

Dream lineup: Time will tell.

Suggestions: 4V4IQ = Winning



One of the last squads that remains in league from the times of old, an honorable team, filled with guys that want to both win and have fun. They are the defending Pro League Champions, albeit with a somewhat drastically different starting lineup.

Current roster: Covert Agent, Street Fighter, Dagger, Savage, Psyanide, Ghostbuster17, Acidfreak, Kejami, Gunishment, twista

Analysis/Comments: I can't say I have seen Covert Agent since Nightwatch's demise, then again, with Kejami's return, anything is possible. I think both of these players can add value but time will tell if that value will really reflect in the pro game today. Street Fighter has been fighting the good fight, longer than even Garcon ever did on phatboys before going to Requiem, he is a great aggressive player who just needs support and I'm not sure he's going to get it. He is great at getting out of bad spots but ends up pushing the pace too much, getting out of position, and blowing ships because he is forced to do alone what should be done as a team. Savage and Ghostbuster17, who I think are brothers, when warm are actually pretty good aggressive players and can be a force. Twista is a cool dude, whose activity has dwindled in recent years but he’s a very realiable and under-rated pilot. Acidfreak, a believe a product of Unhallowed, is really feast or famine and the weasel spears in matches are very hard to connect on vs. random practices. He’ll have to adjust his game to see sustainable success come regular season. Psyanide, a very old player, always manages to get kills when you think he won’t, but also manages to blow items and ships by not playing on an even keel. You need to trust your team mates to have success in pro. Dagger’s activity has also dwindled as of late and he hasn’t really been as committed as he used to be. His multifire spraying in game one of the finals this season last made it evident he wasn’t ready for the big stage, but he has potential.


Dream lineup (Predicated on the entire roster being active): Street Fighter, Savage, Ghostbuster17, twista, first sub: Psyanide 

Suggestions: You need another straight up agro killer to push the pace as the current roster has in-actives (to my knowledge), that can't deliver as they won't be online. However, I wouldn't sacrifice your culture to get someone volatile as that will break up your team. :/

Starfire Elite

Another old team that’s still battling it out, SFE returns for another season. I do say I sometimes have a soft spot for them, as I did Nightwatch, as they continue to keep going despite varying levels of success in league, especially since the dwindling population has created less teams on the AML side of the scale.

Current roster: Shikaa, MizzKitty, Mauler, Something Dutch, G o G o, Pog, MfA, Lord Lincke, light--, Ankh, INRI, SubJunky, Solar Hydro


Analysis/Comments: I have to say I don’t know nearly enough about half of the guys on this team. I do think there are a lot of inactives on this roster and that the team needs to start scouring other zones (Trench Wars) for untapped talent and activity.

Dream lineup: Shikaa, G o G o, Mauler, Pog, first sub: light—until MizzKitty can learn how to play as a team.

Suggestions: Teamwork needs to be paramount next to your recruitment of active players from other zones. Start using discord. If you already are, get more active as a team to practice.


Sterling returns after a decent hiatus to terrorize pro league once again. A very old team, originally captained by I believe Five Venoms back in the 90’s, has a very colorful history, but when then flag drops, despite some of the antics, they don’t fuck around.

Analysis/Comments: Rage, aka BlueFluffyBunny, BFB, Jake, has been one of and still is one of the top players in this league for over a decade. With his excellent positioning and aggression, 4v4IQ, and tenacity only rivaled by the honeybadger, I would make sure you spectate him whenever he plays. Maimer, DIAL THE NUMBER 1-800-BETRAYAL, a fucking fantastic player, is hopefully back and will be active. Whenever this guy is in, consider your shots that hit will be followed up on instantly. Tool, aka Lunacriss, a \REDSHIFT/ warzone veteran, is arguably the best Spider player this league has ever seen and will really piss you off with the energy drain coupled with Rage’s EMP’s. Traxx and Odak are back, both superior duelers and great 4v4 players, will add value and good support for the Spider/Weasel onslaught. Odak needs to stop burning items and ships for no reason in practices as I think that may translate to wasted points in matches. Gruntster has been added to cheerlead on Sterling. I hope he calls more matches this season, but objectively. We do appreciate the recordings, I just wish they were more technical and had a lot less bias. I think activity will be a serious issue for varsity but time will tell. He’s a cool dude, a good agro player, and can add a spark on offense. Bloodyessence has returned, I have to say I really don’t remember too much about him, we’ll see what he can bring to the table. Ojo/bick, the trash talking rocketing duo, despite being serious trolls, can do some damage behind the Rage wrecking ball. Let’s see if they don’t lose their shit, as the garbage practice bad habits transfer over to matches.

Dream lineup: Rage, Maimer, Tool, Traxx, first sub: Odak

Suggestions: Leave Seismic under whatever stone he has crawled under as he’ll yell at Tool for an entire match spamming yellow chat after he (Seismic) dies out like an idiot and cause people to lose interest in playing.


Symphony returns for another season and looks to be actively practicing, which is encouraging.

Current roster: retroaction, the seven year itch, Svenfactor, Seriel Killer, Peeking Duck?, a suicidal dentist, Pivotal, Uncivilized, Groovy Aardvark, floating gun, Curi, Jokexter, Suri

Analysis/Comments: Honestly a lot of names on this roster that are mostly active, but I’m extremely tired of typing at this time. You guys need to get Pivotal under control and focused on playing with the team instead of getting into it with every single person that plays. He also drops a ton of damage so use that do your advantage. I wouldn’t get too many gimmick ships in as you’ll get out maneuvered and smashed in the open.

Dream lineup: The Seven Year Itch, Retroaction, Peeking Duck?, Svenfactor, first sub: Pivotal

Suggestions: Keep up the practices, I would ditch the Leviathan though as it’s going to get your team separated and picked apart. Also Pivotal needs to get more into the action vs. the lobbing to get random practice kills and damage. The only way you’re going to win is with better teamwork, and perhaps a few better players.

The Dark

From Event Horizon -> “HE’S COMING, WHOSE COMING?!” “THE DARK”

Current roster: blink, Nadai, Legacy, YELLOW HAMMER, Da Monkk, JackMove, POWER, Robo, Benji, Joe Jr., Thief, Thor, dozzman, peabrain

Analysis/Comments: Honestly this team is nothing short of a juggernaut on paper, and again, I’m really fucking tired of typing obvious John Madden stuff at this time. All of these guys at the top end of the roster can play, they have tons of playoff and finals experience, they know what to do and how to do it, most if not all have played together before. They are finals bound. It will be interesting to see if Robo and Thor can assimilate into this team and add value, although I honestly don’t see them getting much playing time in the serious playoff matches against DDPM/Sterling.

Dream lineup: Blink, Nadai, Yellow Hammer, Da Monkk, First-sub: Legacy

Suggestions: Not much to say here. Legacy should be subbing in instead of starting in some situations to take advantage of a full ship Weasel without deaths entering a match half-way through or even ¾’S in, and pure agro early from the lineup suggested above but, shrug. I wouldn’t let Thief aka Dre too close to the finals, he tends to worm his way in and explode despite being on the superior team.

Finals Prediction: A lot of ifs here, I don’t know if Maimer will be active on Sterling and if DDPM’s players will show. As that’s in question, I really think it will be a DDPM – The Dark final based on that. TD takes it, 2 games to 1. If DDPM players show and are warm, and Rages best show, I think it’s a coin flip as to who takes it between those 3 teams. It will be very interesting to see if the Spider/Weasel energy drain is nullified by the Terrier(s) that the Dark will use. I would think on it Rage as that might be a decent counter.

League MVP Prediction: Nadai seems to show to every match when a lot of other players don’t, so I’ll go for him to three-peat on this based purely on number of games played. The top 10 will be littered with TD/DDPM players, and Rage.

Quote of the pre-season: T-C-B> Just got back from two months in Europe drinking and fucking. I'm exhausted.





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  l33t predictions
Posted by: Gruntster - 07-22-2018, 03:21 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

hagetaga, ap0c and company plus a few others.


funny shit from 18 years ago $$ GG EZ SON

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  Season 43: Pre-Season Squad Analysis
Posted by: Baby Khul - 07-21-2018, 11:37 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (4)


These so called "brothers in arms" are going to find themselves a hard time fielding four players per match. But if we are to pretend that everyone on their roster are active, they can definitely field quite a fearsome line up. Judging by the Erating associated with each player, it seems their top four players include: Sika, Tunahead, ossi and Candyman. Which to me, sounds about right. Realistically though, we won't be seeing them play until playoffs happen.


Rage and company are back for more punishment, or upsets...? Nice to see a couple new names on the roster, along with some returning ones. Rage seemed to have adopted two more into the family with Bick and Ojo. Maimer and Tool are both old school Sterling, but will they be able to make much of an impact this season? Their top four players are easily: Rage, odak, traxx and Maimer.

StarFire Elite

I can't believe SFE is still around. Judging by everyone's Erating on that team, last place is almost guaranteed for them this season. However, Erating does not necessarily mean anything considering the population has plummeted to almost nonexistent. Having said that, players of SFE have a ton of experience under their belts. Shikaa, Mauler, Something Dutch and Pog are capable of pulling off an upset or two if you underestimate them too much.


I see some familiar names, and also some unfamiliar ones. This team seems to have a good amount of players, enough for subs and such. For me, their top four players are: Retroaction, the seven year itch, Peeking Duck? and Pivotal. Curi and Suri have both been practicing hard every day, I'd love to see them get some playtime this season.


Never heard of this team before, headed by Ozn and hedcase8. They have some scary pilots on their roster: develop, designator, Euripedes and Psycho just to name a few. Not too sure who FUEGO and idiot box are, but their Erating states that they must be quite formidable.

The Dark

My jaw nearly dropped upon looking at this roster. This team has the deepest line up in comparison to everyone else this season. Everyone is solid, and they can most likely have two to three subs per match, which is huge. Top four: it doesn't matter which four are playing, just play anyone.


Llama llama llamas.....this is another team with much talent. Another solid team hands down, are Savage and Ghostbuster17 really playing this season? Are they still good? I can't wait to find out. I predict their starting line up to be: Street Fighter, Dagger, Psyanide and Acidfreak.


So it seems that Three made his own squad to compete with this season. Don't have much to say about this team, except that I see KriLYu on the roster and he automatically makes any team good. Three, KriLYu, Explisive and ivf would be a strong starting line. I wonder how far this team can go.

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  S43 - Rd 1 Pre-season Match Schedule
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 07-16-2018, 06:47 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Matches scheduled for 2018-07-22

Pre-season Round 1 (of 1)

3pm ET:  B.I.A. vs Sterling 4v4a 1325539

3pm ET:  SFE vs Symphony 4v4b 1325540

4pm ET:  DDPM vs The Dark 4v4c 1325541

4pm ET:  Llamas vs Godkiller 4v4d 1325542

Edit: corrected time zone as EST does not stand for 'Eastern Summer Time'

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  New Pro League server on Discord
Posted by: Gruntster - 07-15-2018, 04:56 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

there is a new one sans douchebags

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  Pre-Season Rd 1 matches moved to Sunday, July 22nd
Posted by: Peeking Duck? - 07-14-2018, 06:21 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Sunday, July 15th, 2018

OK, sorry to say, but I'm going to have to push the planned pre-season matches out one week until Sunday, July 22nd. Still have a few things to sort out on my end and it's just better for everyone if we push one week. Also, I would like to remind all that the plan is for there to be only ONE week of pre-season matches before moving into the regular season. I've spoken to many people about this and the majority have said 1 pre-season game is enough, so we'll roll with that unless we decide more are needed.

Tomorrow (Sunday) we'll try to arrange some squad pracs if enough ppl are on.


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