07-16-2014, 08:17 PM
This all comes down to a lack of education. This was all cleared up in my post page 1. There is NO argument that if OZN had (intentionally or not) attach + used an item after a 3rd death it would be illegal and result in a REASONABLE punishment. Also, there is NO argument that if OZN had died out and respawned normally to a random area of the map and REPELLED that it would STILL be illegal even if no one was around. However as clearly stated in my original post, as well as others, neither of these scenarios was the case.
NO ONE, INCLUDING CAERBANNOQ, can say that Ozn died out and respawned normally to a random location on the map then attached to a teammate and repelled before being put in spec. That just simply was not what happened and IF OZN did not die normally and respawn to a random location on the map before being specced whatever happened afterwards is UNPLANNED glitch.
Once again we will go over what happened. OZN died, the server glitched causing him to never respawn and he was floating in the same spot with 0 energy and the same items as before his death. This unplanned glitch which MIMICKS that no death had actually occurred, caused OZN to repel to save himself. We must be reasonable here... I understand legacy and those of you with exciting imaginations can conjure up thousands of what if scenario's and point out parallels between a glitch and cheating but the point is... THE GAME GLITCHED, what happened after is irrelevant because the glitch was out of his control or pre-meditated knowledge. Now, some can argue well the fact that after 3 deaths there is time to attach to someone (WHICH OZN DID NOT) and fire an item is a glitch.. That is true but that is KNOWN glitch and therefore if acted upon is dealt with reprimand since the knowledge of its existence is the reason why the RULE against it EXISTS. However, notice how there is no rule against the legality of glitches... the reason is because there unpredictable... and called a GLITCH. Some of you will argue, as shown above, that ozn must be an IDIOT for not realizing that his death was an OVER kill and that there should have been NO way on earth that he could have possibly thought he survived- Therefore glitch or not he should of just sat there at 0 energy with bullets coming at him and went AGAINST EVERY NATURAL INSTINCT in his 18 years of experience of playing subspace to repel.and IF HE ISN'T able to control this INSTINCT then he is a CHEATER and deserves a 90 day ban... I want to remind you that between the time that OZN died out and the glitch occurred leading to his instinctive repel and finally being specced was only a few seconds. Read that sentence a couple times out loud if you like... doesn't it sound ridiculous? I will repeat myself, lets be reasonable.
AGAIN, The reason why the rule and consequences exists for a player who dies out and fires an item or attaches and fires an item before being specced is because its a known bug/glitch that disrupts the game. AGAIN, a glitch that occurs not prior to our knowledge is not of consequence and not premeditated and can not be the fault of the person(s) involved. What would of happened if this occurred during OZN's second death and because of the glitch he got killed again a second later because of being in the same spot as his death and died out. Would we count that one death as 2 deaths? Or what would of happened if he did what he did and repelled to save himself... would we grant him a ship change for a full ship since he had to use a repel because of a glitch? Or would he have to play at a disadvantage his third life 1 repel down? OR WOULD WE DO WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW AND BAN HIM FOR 90 DAYS ???
The reason why none of you can answer the above question is because this glitch,which is very rare but happens, is not in the rules because it can't be premeditated upon. However, dieing out and being a jerk by attaching to someone to shoot off an item before being specced, that is pre-meditated and deserves punishment.
Lets be reasonable and somewhat educated about this.
NO ONE, INCLUDING CAERBANNOQ, can say that Ozn died out and respawned normally to a random location on the map then attached to a teammate and repelled before being put in spec. That just simply was not what happened and IF OZN did not die normally and respawn to a random location on the map before being specced whatever happened afterwards is UNPLANNED glitch.
Once again we will go over what happened. OZN died, the server glitched causing him to never respawn and he was floating in the same spot with 0 energy and the same items as before his death. This unplanned glitch which MIMICKS that no death had actually occurred, caused OZN to repel to save himself. We must be reasonable here... I understand legacy and those of you with exciting imaginations can conjure up thousands of what if scenario's and point out parallels between a glitch and cheating but the point is... THE GAME GLITCHED, what happened after is irrelevant because the glitch was out of his control or pre-meditated knowledge. Now, some can argue well the fact that after 3 deaths there is time to attach to someone (WHICH OZN DID NOT) and fire an item is a glitch.. That is true but that is KNOWN glitch and therefore if acted upon is dealt with reprimand since the knowledge of its existence is the reason why the RULE against it EXISTS. However, notice how there is no rule against the legality of glitches... the reason is because there unpredictable... and called a GLITCH. Some of you will argue, as shown above, that ozn must be an IDIOT for not realizing that his death was an OVER kill and that there should have been NO way on earth that he could have possibly thought he survived- Therefore glitch or not he should of just sat there at 0 energy with bullets coming at him and went AGAINST EVERY NATURAL INSTINCT in his 18 years of experience of playing subspace to repel.and IF HE ISN'T able to control this INSTINCT then he is a CHEATER and deserves a 90 day ban... I want to remind you that between the time that OZN died out and the glitch occurred leading to his instinctive repel and finally being specced was only a few seconds. Read that sentence a couple times out loud if you like... doesn't it sound ridiculous? I will repeat myself, lets be reasonable.
AGAIN, The reason why the rule and consequences exists for a player who dies out and fires an item or attaches and fires an item before being specced is because its a known bug/glitch that disrupts the game. AGAIN, a glitch that occurs not prior to our knowledge is not of consequence and not premeditated and can not be the fault of the person(s) involved. What would of happened if this occurred during OZN's second death and because of the glitch he got killed again a second later because of being in the same spot as his death and died out. Would we count that one death as 2 deaths? Or what would of happened if he did what he did and repelled to save himself... would we grant him a ship change for a full ship since he had to use a repel because of a glitch? Or would he have to play at a disadvantage his third life 1 repel down? OR WOULD WE DO WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW AND BAN HIM FOR 90 DAYS ???
The reason why none of you can answer the above question is because this glitch,which is very rare but happens, is not in the rules because it can't be premeditated upon. However, dieing out and being a jerk by attaching to someone to shoot off an item before being specced, that is pre-meditated and deserves punishment.
Lets be reasonable and somewhat educated about this.