05-25-2011, 02:30 PM
I wish I knew what mindriot was on about.
Either way, when I logged in to SS today I had three messages telling me cash flow king + el father were aliasing and ruining pracs for people by whatever means. Now, aliasing itself is not illegal. El Father and Cash Flow King are both aliases in my book, since the players were known with other names long before these ones. I checked the pracs these aliases were in
When I logged on to the forums I have a !game 100958 message in my inbox telling me that mindriot valiantly SCd to a javelin and ran out the clock in a prac that he was losing.
The only reason for why he did this seems to be that he was upset about the opposing team not restarting a 3v3 match when one of his teammates died out soon(ish). As far as the log goes, no illegal shipchanging or illegal subbing was performed by CFK/el father. However, one of the people messaging me about these guys ruining pracs did illegally sub in and die out.
What mindriot did is against the rules. What the other person did is against the rules.
Also "righting" a wrong with a wrong is against the rules. I've told everyone a bunch of times, if someone breaks the rules and you want me to do something about it, don't try to abuse them in return. I will only view this as idiots arguing online.
Now of course I also had a second message about the fact that Surrey was in the arena when Mindriot cheated and did nothing and I should fire him. This might be tricky, because Surrey is not a part of 4v4 staff yet. He probably will be though, he seems to be around, have his head screwed on semi-right at least and is able to think objectively.
As far as the evidence goes, mindriot is the only one I could ban. I'll hold that thought until I have a chat with surrey though, seeing as how he's being considered as staff-worthy.
I also agree that I shouldn't run the league. It's a lot of work trying to keep a bunch of people happy, while they all want different things <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I'm sure someone could do a better job, and a lot of people think they could do a better job. A lot of people also realize than even being a regular staffer comes with no benefits, but a bunch of "duties" and people acting like everything they fail at is your fault.
On a more serious note.. I'm not sure how I'm not neutral or balanced in issues that concern the league at a higher level. Just because I don't like (a lot) of the players' attitudes does not mean I don't treat all squads the same. I especially wrote the rules strict without much wiggle room to make sure this happens, and I've stuck to them pretty religiously. Yes, I know, I've bent my own rules a few times this season (helping people sub in, including mindriot), while the rules say it's the captains' responsibility to assign lagouts etc. for their players to be able to return. I mostly did this because the OPPOSING squad's captain asked for ?help.
The same applies for when Da Monkk asked for a restart in our match. Yes, hibachi suggested we should maybe restart for a good match, Monkk was ok with it. I then abused my powers and did not score the game 12-0 for Nguyens. Not that I believe this will make much of a difference in the final standings.
For the two chaos players that read this... yes, it should be on the 4v4 forum but cash's reply is not visible there.
Either way, when I logged in to SS today I had three messages telling me cash flow king + el father were aliasing and ruining pracs for people by whatever means. Now, aliasing itself is not illegal. El Father and Cash Flow King are both aliases in my book, since the players were known with other names long before these ones. I checked the pracs these aliases were in
When I logged on to the forums I have a !game 100958 message in my inbox telling me that mindriot valiantly SCd to a javelin and ran out the clock in a prac that he was losing.
The only reason for why he did this seems to be that he was upset about the opposing team not restarting a 3v3 match when one of his teammates died out soon(ish). As far as the log goes, no illegal shipchanging or illegal subbing was performed by CFK/el father. However, one of the people messaging me about these guys ruining pracs did illegally sub in and die out.
What mindriot did is against the rules. What the other person did is against the rules.
Also "righting" a wrong with a wrong is against the rules. I've told everyone a bunch of times, if someone breaks the rules and you want me to do something about it, don't try to abuse them in return. I will only view this as idiots arguing online.
Now of course I also had a second message about the fact that Surrey was in the arena when Mindriot cheated and did nothing and I should fire him. This might be tricky, because Surrey is not a part of 4v4 staff yet. He probably will be though, he seems to be around, have his head screwed on semi-right at least and is able to think objectively.
As far as the evidence goes, mindriot is the only one I could ban. I'll hold that thought until I have a chat with surrey though, seeing as how he's being considered as staff-worthy.
I also agree that I shouldn't run the league. It's a lot of work trying to keep a bunch of people happy, while they all want different things <img src='http://www.subspace.co/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I'm sure someone could do a better job, and a lot of people think they could do a better job. A lot of people also realize than even being a regular staffer comes with no benefits, but a bunch of "duties" and people acting like everything they fail at is your fault.On a more serious note.. I'm not sure how I'm not neutral or balanced in issues that concern the league at a higher level. Just because I don't like (a lot) of the players' attitudes does not mean I don't treat all squads the same. I especially wrote the rules strict without much wiggle room to make sure this happens, and I've stuck to them pretty religiously. Yes, I know, I've bent my own rules a few times this season (helping people sub in, including mindriot), while the rules say it's the captains' responsibility to assign lagouts etc. for their players to be able to return. I mostly did this because the OPPOSING squad's captain asked for ?help.
The same applies for when Da Monkk asked for a restart in our match. Yes, hibachi suggested we should maybe restart for a good match, Monkk was ok with it. I then abused my powers and did not score the game 12-0 for Nguyens. Not that I believe this will make much of a difference in the final standings.
For the two chaos players that read this... yes, it should be on the 4v4 forum but cash's reply is not visible there.