Forcecap

[Surrey]

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Surrey, whenever its possible, a second arena is indeed started. Again, "there usually aren't enough players active at one time for a second arena to be valid" seems to be a factor overlooked. People aren't demanding to play pro-tier opponents, they are simply lamenting the ability to get into a prac at all.

 

I specifically attempt to identify similar level to play with and against, and generally stay out of pracs quite happily when its all top-tier or ridiculous lopsidedness, except where there just isn't another 8th option to be found.

 

You would have us think players like myself (incomparable with a potential decent player like Mr. B-Hole, btw, who'd be checking your lanc for coeliac with a season with the right training and support) refuse to play unless its against quality opponents. That's massively erroneous. They just want a game. The age of Subspace is a factor because the players aren't teenage kids with a day to kill, waiting a while for a game is a big deal - people think, it'll take a while but hopefully my .cap should come up before too long. It's frustrating to have that patience abused - and again I feel there's many legit reasons but there should be guidelines for use in place.

 

I say "they" just want a game because I don't personally feel denied opportunity. I've actually pracced twenty more times this month than you have. I'm not arguing that I don't get to play (I manage a team in an almost non-playing capacity - that's fulfilling enough for me). I'm only arguing that a tool that seems to a newcomer to be unjust, and has no delineated clarification for its usage, puts forth a poor image to that newcomer.

 

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Best answer of course is to find more players - would resolve most of this. But how?

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Removing forcecap would not fix this at all as people would just switch arena's to rematch. So your options (as benji has somewhat stated) are to:

 

a) continue to wait in line until you are able to captain a team or are picked for a team in a 4v4squad arena

or b) do your best to get as many people to another arena as you can, and then wait for the remaining needed players to join.

 

Either option involves worse players waiting... there seems to be a fair amount of people arguing against the forcecap rule, so maybe next time you are sitting there and forcecap is used and you don't like it head off with the player who was forced away and anyone else you can grab to attempt to start a new arena. There is a lot of complaining to remove forcecap, but in the end removing it (unless players are in fact so lazy they would rather play bad players than move arena's) will accomplish nothing. So it falls on the people who dislike or disagree with the forcecap to figure out a way to stop it. If enough people are against it then the forcecap will inevitably kill the arena more often then not since the active people would leave.

 

The problem is, no one will complain if they are forced to but many will complain if captainship is forced away from them. Only the players who disagree with the command can do something about it, removing it will be pointless as changing arena's will just be the new way to "forcecap".