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| Reform The Zone (rewrite the bots, move to ASSS, etc) |
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Posted by: Three - 01-02-2015, 06:59 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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Moderator Edit: Have moved these posts from "Move the zone" to a conversation of their own - Nude
(12-31-2014, 01:33 AM)BlueGoku Wrote: TW has suffered the same population decline as every other zone. They have a billion robots, though, which artificially increases their stats. But any time I've popped in there in the past little while to see what's going on (during the 30 seconds I can stay connected before it boots me for resolution) the zone has seemed fairly dead. A pub going on, sure, and maybe javs, but that's it.
With that said, consolidation is probably the only way the game will survive another few years, but every zone needs to first get on ASSS instead of continuing to use severely outdated and limited server software.
After that's done, continuum could essentially be one game world, with tons of different arenas all operating independently.
I agree. However, this won't ever happen. People in "power" sitting in their command centers (mothers basements) don't want to step aside.
Countless times this has been tried. I don't see hallu, passplay, simonsays, and/or ghost ship knuckling under, sorry.
A few of us 2 years ago funded the bot coding and development for new pro bots, had another zone ready to go (ASSS server), new maps, adjusted settings, a dedicated server, etc. Shot down. Dueling was automated - it was pretty sick. If anyone wants the entire story and the dealings with "management", as it were, talk to Devious. Your head will spin.
To quote a fantastic low budget movie Cube which seems fitting:
"This may be hard for you to understand, but there is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It, it's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan. Can you grasp that? Big Brother is not watching you."
That is the best description of Subspace "management" I can think of.
The sad fact is the game will die. Enjoy what seasons we have left.
Feel free to try.
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| S36 Playoffs R1 Schedule |
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Posted by: Caerbannog - 01-01-2015, 12:17 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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1 Assassins 12-1 91 0.47
2 OUTLAWS 12-1 92 0.465
^---- BYE into semis, Assassins get to pick the match-up they want their opponents from ---^
3 The Dark 10-3 69 0.47 (def. Sterling 11-8)
4 sterling 10-3 53 0.47
5 Critical Mass 9-4 56 0.493
6 Cosmic Rift 8-5 25 0.493
^---- PRO ----^
7 Backarrow 8-5 47 0.493 (12-0 over WTF?, lost vs. Cosmic Rift 7-6) BYE into AML semis.
8 Llamas 7-6 38 0.465 BYE
9 Symphony 5-8 -19 0.446 BYE
10 StarFire Elite 4-9 -39 0.465
11 Dropships 3-10 -55 0.493
^---- AML ----^
12 WTF? 1-6 -51 0.581
13 Slopships 1-7 -67 0.443
14 BYE Round 0-20 -240 0.53
The above standings were only adjusted for the bits that matter like Backarrow's 1 missing win and their result vs. Cosmic Rift. Assassins' K/D should be correct as well, so what you see here would be the K/D that eventually goes on A1.
PRO:
#3 vs. #6 in pro
The Dark vs. Cosmic Rift (best of 3, game 1)
#4 vs. #5 in pro
Sterling vs. Critical Mass (best of 3, game 1)
Assassins get to choose which match-up they want their opponents from, Outlaws get the other option. Default: Sterling vs. Critical Mass
AML:
StarFire Elite vs. Dropships (best of 3, game 1)
Backarrow either plays the winner of that match-up in semis or picks Symphony/Llamas.
3pm:
StarFire Elite vs. Dropships -- 1294311
4pm:
The Dark vs. Cosmic Rift -- 1294312
Sterling vs. Critical Mass -- 1294313
All games are game 1 of a best of 3 series.
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| Move the zone. |
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Posted by: High Gain - 12-30-2014, 05:43 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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As a prelude to what I'm about to say, let me first put forward that I like Hallu a Hell of a lot more than I like anyone from Trench Wars. He's been a good and constant friend to our league.
So, that being said, I shall bring forward the inevitable: consolidation. We are dying and stagnant. No one can reasonably deny it.
We are currently a subzone of Chaos. Sadly, Chaos is no more. It is functionally dead, the efforts of Hallu and his staff notwithstanding. So what to do? As they say, "When the Devil drives, needs must."
If it can be arranged, through whatever mean necessary, becoming a subzone of Trench is our best possible chance for survival. We CAN poach their population. It can be done. Hell, Symphony's entire roster is poached from other zones. Clowns, yes, but nothing a baseball bat and some persistence can't fix.
Complications? Tons. We'll probably have to submit to their goddamned res limit, which is really not much of an issue in the era of the resizer, but still. We'll probably surrender some autotonomy. Will you have to tone down your shit talk and racism? Very probably; I expect some of you to be net-banned. Pardon me if I don't weep over that. And lastly, they may see us as a threat, or worse, a non-entity, and not accept us at all. Still, the attempt should, nay, *must* be made.
I'd like to hear Hallu's thoughts on this, as well as his staff. I know full well what I'm asking of you, having run this league myself before.
HG
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| S36 Round 13 Schedule (Reg. Season end) |
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Posted by: Caerbannog - 12-15-2014, 05:16 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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3pm:
BYE Round - BYE Round
Dropships - Backarrow -- 1293880
The Dark - Sterling -- 1293881
BYE Round - Symphony -- 1293882
4pm:
Assassins - Llamas -- 1293883
Outlaws - Critical Mass -- 1293884
Starfire Elite - Cosmic Rift -- 1293885
Adjusted standings (using play-off tiebreakers and with converted wins, K/D from all the dissolved squads still not in):
1 Assassins 11-1 84 0.465 (def. Outlaws 7-6)
2 OUTLAWS 11-1 90 0.449
^---- BYE into semis ---^
3 sterling 10-2 56 0.455
4 The Dark 9-3 66 0.451 (def. Critical Mass 12-5)
5 Critical Mass 9-3 58 0.469
6 Cosmic Rift 7-5 18 0.503 ( def. Backarrow 7-6, def. Llamas 6-5: Total 2/0 +2)
^---- PRO ----^
7 Backarrow 7-5 53 0.506 (12-0 over WTF?, def. Llamas 12-6, lost vs. CRift 7-6: Total 1/1+5)
8 Llamas 7-5 45 0.44 (lost vs. Backarrow 12-6, lost vs. CRift 6-5: Total 0/2 -7)
9 Symphony 4-8 -31 0.477 (def. SFE 12-6)
10 StarFire Elite 4-8 -32 0.457
11 Dropships 3-9 -48 0.491
^---- AML ----^
12 WTF? 1-6 -51 0.581
13 Slopships 1-7 -67 0.443
14 BYE Round 0-19 -228 0.537
So the top 2 squads will be Assassins and Outlaws. Outlaws can only finish #1 if they win while Assassins lose.
The next 4 squads will be Sterling, The Dark, Critical Mass and one of the 7-5 squads. Llamas can still make PRO if both Backarrow and Cosmic Rift lose.
The squads in the 3-6 range are playing for seedings into quarters:
"Playoff games are best of 1, up to semi-"finals". With 6 squads, the top two teams get a BYE in Pro while #3 plays #6 and #4 plays #5. #1 seed gets to choose which match-up they want their opponents from. Same goes for AML, varied to match in numbers."
EDIT NOTE: That best of 1 quarter-final round will be replaced by GAME 1 of a best-of-3 Quarter-Finals series on the 4th of January.
..hmm.. Also if those games were all played at 3pm we could play the first games of semis at 4. Which means we'd be finished the weekend before superbowl. Not the superbowl weekend or the week after. But that would be rather silly.
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| S35 Round 11 Schedule |
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Posted by: Caerbannog - 12-05-2014, 06:22 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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3pm:
BYE Round - Assassins -- 1293490
Outlaws - BYE Round -- 1293491
The Dark - Llamas -- 1293492
Sterling - Critical Mass -- 1293493
4pm:
Starfire Elite - BYE Round -- 1293494
Dropships - Symphony -- 1293495
Backarrow - Cosmic Rift -- 1293496
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| Sterling issuing self bans |
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Posted by: Seismic - 12-05-2014, 07:30 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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On behalf of Sterling i would like to apologize to the staff, community and Mindriot. We believe that the actions taken by the council are far too lenient. Sterling will now be using a 3 pronged punishment to further implement what i believe are the rightful punishments.
1. Sterling will now place a 1 month ban on Rage. He will not be allowed to participate in any league functions.
2. 9-Volt will be stepping down from his mod position. I believe this to be sufficient due to him doing nothing about the alleged cheating.
3. Plareplane will be restricted to only using the forums for political debates. He will no longer be allowed to post in the league forum. This will suffice. Clearly Plareplane was being biased and contributed nothing to the previous discussion.
I hope this will suffice and that the everyone understands Sterling does not take these actions lightly. I want to thank the council for their time and quick judgement.
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| Did Rage and 9-Volt+ abuse the rules? |
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Posted by: mindriot - 12-02-2014, 03:48 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion
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I was playing well last night and thoroughly enjoying myself.
Rage decided to play the final Practice Match of the night. My team was tired and slowly began to die, Rage traded kills with my team mate and they both died out leaving me in a precarious 3 on 1 situation.
I fought hard and began to chip away at the enemy team's lead by getting kills. Odin was reduced to a whining baby because he couldn't handle the pressure. If you're playing league and cannot win a 3 on 1 when the lone pilot is actively attacking you, you don't belong in pro and should remain in spec.
Upon seeing my potential win, Rage had the captain of his team kick a player and subbed in as Jake to hold me off.
I would like to know if this is legal. To add insult to injury, 9-Volt+ was watching the abuse unfold and did absolutely nothing to stop it, you can check the log to see that he was present and watching. Is it because he plays on Sterling?
The match ended with Jake and his team mate refusing to attack me. He had 4 lives and could not kill me. What a pitiful way to represent all that bravado Rage. You acted like a coward and I lost all respect for you.
The Practice Match in question is here:
http://svssubspace.com/?page=Game&id=1293404&season=0
You can clearly see that Jake subbed in after Rage was sent to spec. You can also read the spec log to verify.
Where is the honor? Where is the valor? This game has been reduced to nonsense such as outlined above, and to top it all off, a moderator did nothing to stop it because he is on the same team as the abuser.
Everyone complains about this game dying and it is clear why.
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