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  Squad Analysis (Part 1)
Posted by: Sage - 09-08-2014, 04:41 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (1)

Assassins 

 

Top 6:  Saiyan (98), Sika (96), Buny (92), Kdak (91), Mop (88), Nadai (87), Develop (96)

 

Best starting Combination: Saiyan, Sika, Mop, Nadai

 

Since Develop has indicated that he will not be playing this season, Assassins' lineup will be thin and they'll be very beatable as they lack of the depth of last season as they've lost a core two core pilots (Develop and Nacre).That being said, I haven't seen Kdak in ages either, and I don't consider the rest of the Assassins roster to be worthy of much consideration on an elite team like Assassins. So look for Saiyan, Sika and Buny to play feature roles on Assassins this season with strong supportive play from Mop and Nadai. Without Nacre and Develop, Assassins is very beatable and very likely has lost the top spot to Outlaws or The Dark. 

 

Rank: 3

 

The Dark

 

Top 6: Da Monkk (97), Blink (93), Diablo (90), chrono (88), Benji (86), Yellow Hammer (86)

 

Best starting combination: Da Monkk, Diablo, Blink, chrono

 

This team certainly isn't lacking in depth, featuring elite talent like Monkk and Blink. Outside of their top 6, they have capable players in Myth, swamp thing and 9-Volt. So many good players. So little playing time. They have enough depth to beat any team on any given Sunday. With their foes on Assassins and Critical Mass critically weakened, these guys are the BEST bet to win league this season. Monkk is still a top 5 carry, with good chemistry with Blink, and they have tremendous support talent in Chrono/Benji/Diablo. Nillerk is being critically underrated and deserves more playing time. He's a glue guy, very similar to Mop. I consider Yellow Hammer to be a Monkk lite so they can play interchangeably, although Monkk is the superior talent. 

 

Rank: 1

 

Sterling

 

Top 6: Rage (98), Seismic (89), Maimer (85), Nine (85), Plarep (84), Massacre (83)

 

Best Starting Combination: Rage, Seismic, Maimer, Nine/Plarep

 

Sterling isn't as deep as you would think and their success is almost entirely reliant on Rage showing up every Sunday and carrying his team to victory. Outside of Rage, they lack elite talent and carry many good - but not great players who may not have the talent to keep up with the mercurial Rage. Although they have 13 rostered players, outside of their top 6, they're either prone to choking (Pseudo), rust (Zeit, BloodyEssence, Primos) or just sucking (SuperDan). Seismic is a great player but one who can't put the team on his back, so that duty would fall onto Nine's shoulders if Rage doesn't show up. Nine is a dynamic pilot who has loads of potential and I have a lot of faith in him. Maimer is a good support player - Look for him to be Rage's support wingmate, and finally Plarep, while being a solid pilot isn't dynamic, but he plays very intelligently and is reliable.

 

Rank: 5

 

Part 2, 3, 4 coming later.

 

Note: Those are player ratings in the brackets - Not random numbers.

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  S36 Squad Analysis
Posted by: elf - 09-08-2014, 07:50 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (7)

Hi guys,

 

It's a slow Monday morning here so I thought I'd spend some time analysing the opposition this season. Hopefully this inspires others to do the same, always interesting to hear peoples views on potential line-ups.

 

Disclaimer: I haven't been active for a few seasons so I may have called it wrong in many cases, apologies if I hurt your feelings!

 

Assassins

Top 5: Sika, Nadai, Mop, Develop, Saiyan

Comments: I've never played with Buny but I've heard good things. He and Saiyan are interchangeable in the 5th spot. Except for Nadai I haven't seen them praccing much yet. The tilt factor is pretty strong here with Sika and Nadai both prone to choking, but when they playing well they will roll over any team in the league. I'm not sure if I prefer the old Assassins who were a bit more stable and preferred to grind down the enemy (aiti, tak, mop, +1). They could certainly use 1/2 more active recruits but I think the current roster is solid.

 

Backarrow

Top 5: BugKiller, Tunahead, Superwolf, Surrey, Fedu

Comments: Great to see so many old B.I.A. players back in action. However, they've got a long way to go before they are at their peak again but guys like Hook and Jinxi have the potential to transform this roster into a great team if they can put the hours in. Superwolf is one of the newer players here but he's got great aim and movement - a real tough opponent. I hope to see them add a few more players to bulk out the roster more. However, they are praccing alot and often have 8 or 9 guys online. Candyman is good in the right line-up, I don't think this one suits him though. They certainly have the potential to push for a 5op 4 spot, whether that happens is totally dependent on how much they practice and whether the BIA players return to form.

 

Beastfu

Top 5: Gold Teeth, Wobit, zAiR, ibex, Marshall_Law

Comments: I don't know much about these guys - aliasers or new players perhaps? Hopefully the latter. Gold Teeth I think I played with on Rebels and he was reasonably solid. Wobit was on Secret but hasn't been active in league for years. The other three I'm not too sure about. Can't really comment on their potential but with them the best of luck.

 

Cosmic Rift

Top 5: Savage, GhostBuster17, Greg, McLaren, Pog

Comments: A real mix of players here. Some guys with heaps of league experience and some are fairly unproven. Some names on this roster are worrying and should only be allowed off the bench in unimportant games - otherwise they are liable to choke horribly. As it stands I think CR is a mid-league team who can definitely pose problems for some of the higher tier squads if GB17/Sav are on form, they can push for a top 5 spot but I think when things get serious they lack the depth to compete and need a few more solid recruits who can step in and make a difference if someone doesn't show or needs to be subbed.

 

Critical Mass

Top 5: Three, designator, Ozn, boolean, Antihuman

Comments: Lots of aliasers here and I'm not sure who's who. The players I have listed are solid and can hang with anyone in the league. However they lack depth and could use someone who is able to turn it up in big games. If they solely rely on Three to make the plays (which I doubt, but its a possibility) then they could have problems but there is enough experience here to ensure that they can challenge for a top spot. Despite only 8 rostered members, its a quality over quantity team and all of the guys can turn up and play well.

 

Dropships

Top 5: Skimm, Plutorus, Joe. Jr,  A suicidal dentist, Hallowed.

Comments: These guys are really improving and have become a cohesive unit who can present a challenge to most squads in the league. They aren't a free win anymore and I look forward to seeing them cause a few upsets. They've picked up some solid pilots and whilst some are still a little green, there is a good mix of experience there with Plutorus and suicidal dentist. Joe Jr. is a good focal point for the team and skimm is a strong defensive/support player. 

 

Outlaws:

Top 5: Krilyu, Caerbannog, Eric Clapton, KingNewbie, Enforcer

Comments: Really stacked roster with guys who prac alot and have tonnes of high end league experience. Plenty of potential subs who could almost create an entirely new squad and compete for the title themselves (Legacy, Crescendo, Captor, Barbarian, Hibachi). I think it will be between Outlaws/Assassins/Critical Mass/Sterling battling it out for the top 4 with Outlaws taking the title. They put in the hours and have the deep roster needed.

 

Slopships

Top 5: Shiny, Stigma, Nude for Satan, Bargeld, based god

Comments: Seem like the Dropships b-team? Great to see more squads in the league and I hope these guys enjoy the season. I can't see them posing many challenges to anyone except beastfu, SFE & WTF? The roster is deep and squads like Slopships are vital to the longevity of this zone - welcome guys!

 

Stafire Elite

Top 5: Shikaa, ufotable, Mauler, MFA, Medicus

Shikaa is a great pick-up and if Mauler is active then the duo can do some serious damage. Medicus is solid in a spider (I think?) which is always an annoying ship to play against. Ufotable seems like a solid new player who will be an important element to this team. This is one of the stronger SFE line-ups in my memory and they shouldn't be underestimated. Definitely one of the strongest mid tier teams if they prac.

 

Sterling

Top 5: Rage, Seismic, Maimer, Plare, pseudo

Comments: Strong roster. Would have been nice to see a few more old names come back too (Hat, Onslaught, Cloud) but I like the combination of experience and skill. Plus, they aren't afraid to pickup less experienced guys such as Nine and Twista who are solid players that can come off the bench and hang with the top squads. Rage is one of the best offensive players in the game and Seismic is a great support player who makes intelligent flanks and set-ups for this team. I haven't seen much of Maimer recently but he's always a good opponent. Pseudo is excellent when playing well, terrible when not. If you catch him on a bad day he will choke, if you catch him on a good day he will dominate. The problem is that there is no consistency. I think we see Sterling come into their own in the playoffs and look forward to some good games between them and Ass/CM/Outlaws/TD.

 

Symphony

Top 5: US, Peeking Duck?, High Gain, Denied, Cicada

Comments: Peeking is doing a great job of bringing Symph back and bringing new players into our zone/league. I commend him for starting something new and doing a great job in building his squad. Their first season back wont be easy but they have a good mix of experience and dedication with lots of the new guys praccing hard and improving (Edgar, Gambit, KillerCam, lute). In a couple of seasons these guys will be tough opponents. Right now I see Symph competing with SFE/WTF and beating Beastfu/Slopships. However, they can certainly climb higher if they continue to practice and work hard.

 

The Dark

Top 5: Da_Monkk, Blink, 9-Volt, Benji, chrono

Comments: Really nice roster here with a mixture of DS/TD guys, all of whom are skilled and experienced. Like Outlaws, the bench is deep with enough players to make up another full squad that can compete at the top (Diablo, YELLOW HAMMER, Mercury, swamp thing). The key player here for me is Benji, if he gets practising he and returns to form he can be a beast to play against. They are a very offensive side and Blink is great at providing a solid support/flanker who cuts off the enemy and sets up kills for Monkk/chrono. Definitely a contender for top spot.

 

WTF?

Top 5: Savman, a-soul, Stories, weed, scub

Comments:Great to see this squad back in action. I haven't seen them practising much but that could be a time zone related thing. Savman has alot of league experience and they need him to be active. I think WTF will compete with Symph/Beastfu/Slopships in the AML category of the league and will find it hard in their first season back. However, I hope they stick around and look forward to playing vs. them this season.

 

 

 

 

 

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  S36 Preseason round 1 - READY to go, but optional
Posted by: hallucination - 09-06-2014, 02:45 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (6)

Games are SETUP and ready to play. The bot server is still unstable and I'm afraid it will remain so until Microsoft fixes their update. Play if you want - we'll set up more games for next weekend, regardless.

 

OPTIONAL due to bot server instability -- Sunday Sep 7th

 

3 pm:

Outlaws - The Dark (semi-finalists from last season) 1289207

Backarrow - Llamas (pro playoffs from last season) 1289214

Dropships - SFE 1289215


4 pm:

Assassins - Critical Mass (rematch of finals) 1289220

Sterling - Cosmic Rift (new teams for this season) 1289218

Slopships - WTF? (new teams for this season) 1289219

Beastfu - Symphony 1289221

 

Show for your game anyway and some play can still be had...

see my post below...

 

--hallu

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  Settings changes
Posted by: Micloren - 09-05-2014, 07:02 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (48)

1. Can we not make every green equal one of three things: brick, thor, rocket?

 

2. Shark sucks.  Make the antiwarp cost normal instead of 150.

 

3. How about rewarding people for good aim and making direct bombs 850 for everything but weasle.  Heck i'd say make it 900.

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  Season 36 - Starting Date Information
Posted by: Nude For Satan - 09-03-2014, 04:19 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (2)

As determined within 4v4 Council and apparently my job to tell everyone Tongue

 

Season 36 is to start this coming weekend with a preseason round. Schedule of clashes still to be provided by Caerbannog.

 

All things being well and no major dramatics pending, it is likely that preseason will be one round only, and that the season proper will start 14th September (weekend after the one coming). Again, actual schedule of matches will be made available when produced.

 

Dates of the roster locks, play-offs format, etc, are 99% resolved and will be advised soon. Pretty sure which way things are going and there are no surprises of note. Biggest change is the increase of teams to 14.

 

Similar to recent seasons, Regular will be round robin format with 14 teams participating. Standings after Regular will be used to split the teams into Pro and AML divisions for separate play-offs.

 

If you have ideas or concerns, you should be telling your team rep, If you don't know who your rep is, ask your captain(s). If they don't know, may god have mercy on your soul. Smile

 

As more particulars are set in stone, I'll relay them to this forum.

 

Competing Teams

  • Assassins
  • Backarrow
  • beastfu
  • Cosmic Rift
  • Critical Mass
  • Dropships
  • Llamas(ery)
  • Outlaws
  • Slopships
  • Starfire Elite
  • Sterling
  • Symphony
  • The Dark
  • WTF?

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  Squad/Roster banner images on stats website
Posted by: Nude For Satan - 08-29-2014, 01:34 AM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (4)

Anyone know how to have banners show up beside teams on the stats website?

 

http://svssubspace.com/?year=2007&month=0&limit=100&sort=name&season=0

[Image: rostersonstatswebsit.jpg]

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  Council Representation for Season 36
Posted by: Nude For Satan - 08-27-2014, 10:34 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (3)

All teams are urged to have active representation on the 4v4 Council.

 

If you are a new team, it is recommended you settle on a representative from your roster. This rep doesn't necessarily have to be a captain. Please favor highly active players for this role. If you want a say in league matters, don't nominate someone who is afk all season or disinterested in creating a forum account.

 

If you are on an existing team, it is valuable to know who your rep is. If you don't know, ask your squad captain(s). If you find that nobody knows, maybe you don't have a rep? Maybe he/she doesn't know they are the rep.

 

Captains, to have your nominated representative recognized (given access to Council forum, given voting rights in Council matters), please advise hallucination or myself. Note that if you don't provide a rep, you most likely will not have a say/vote on league-wide matters such as no-play weekends, play-offs format or complaint resolution.

 

If you have a league matter you wish resolved, your team's rep is a good place to start. They can bring issues to the attention of Council. This includes schedule format, complaints, rule breaches, and ideas to improve or otherwise add to the 4v4 experience. League grand pooh-bah Caerbannog+ is of course the go-to person for such things as application of the rules, and getting things done in-season.

 

New season is under construction and expected to be nigh at hand. Choose your rep and have your say.

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  Will SS2 be better than this?
Posted by: mindriot - 08-25-2014, 02:18 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (2)

http://ekundev.tumblr.com/post/95691744308/anybody-ever-play-subspace-or-continuum-for-ld30

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  2v2 Tournament - 30th - 31th August 2014
Posted by: Captor - 08-23-2014, 09:29 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - Replies (2)

canceled due no sign ups

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  UPDATED - Finding Chaos/League Zone
Posted by: hallucination - 08-18-2014, 07:26 PM - Forum: Pro League Discussion - No Replies

Some progress toward solving the various problems... See this post: 

 

http://www.subspace.co/topic/27570-finding-chaosleague-zone/

http://forum.svssubspace.com/showthread.php?tid=70
 

--hallu

 

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