TOURNAMENT INFO

#- amount of series of different types of games to be played along with your team, which all have x-number of players. Salary will be use for players. Team's compete on winning as many championship points as they can. Winner of the tournament will be the team with most championship points at the end.


SIGNING FOR TOURNAMENT

Reply to this thread with your nick, or msg Captor or Captor+ with nick. New players are allowed to join for teams during tournament, after certain amount of players have ranked you, for salary and you become eligible.


SCHEDULE

Round(2) of the tournament will be played on the 15th of June at 4pm.



TEAMS/ROSTERS

4- teams, with unlimited roster sizes, but players have salaries and teams have salary to paid to players each week.

Check teams so you know what team you want to join at start. It's still fre movement between teams, so contact Captor, captor+ or reply to this thread if you want to change team.


Player movement between teams is allowed, but it's Manager's job to do it.

As games are played, your salary will raise or lower based on how you do. Team will pick manager for themselves, but it has got to be someone with player knowledge.

Manager of the team will be able to buy / trade / sell players, after each round. Manager of the team can be changed during the tournament, if over 50% of the team players want it to.


Captain of the team will be picked by manager, and that captain will pick himself an assistant captain. If manager is changed during season, then captain and also assistant captain will be changed too.



RATING AND CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS ARE DIVIDED TO GAMING PLAYERS LIKE THIS.

RATING GOES TO PLAYER AND STAY'S WITH THE PLAYER UNTIL THE END OF THE TOURNAMENT.

CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS GOES TO THE TEAM, WHERE THE PLAYER IS ON CURRENTLY ROSTERED WHEN GAME WAS PLAYED.


1st 25

2nd 22

3rd 19

4th 16

5th 14

6th 12

7th 10

8th 9

9th 8

10th 7

11th 6

12th 5

13th 4

14th 3

15th 2

16th 1



Tournament teams are as follows:


100[A] -blue


Arctos

Bizzahhobby

Candyman

Curtis Lee

dblue

High Gain

Mastiff

Motorzep

lightbender

Ozn

Psycho Psematic

Player Killer

Sephiroth

THC

Treachen

Twista

Willy


200[B] -red,


9-volt

7th

a pez addiction

Develop

Ivf

Kdakdja

Macuto

NINE

Pempu

Psyanide

Smackdown

Street Fighter

Swamp thing

the seven year itch

Varsity

ZigNotZag



300[C] -green


A Mirror

Adept

Afri

Caerbannog

Captor

Cycl0ne

Hibachi

Jamuraan

Jocker

Kop

Legacy

Mudvayne

Photo

saiyan

Seriel Killer

S.T.O.P.



400[D] -yellow


Equinoob

Hendrix

designator

Eric Clapton

Hallowed

hit man

homie

Jae

Pretender

Pryde

ojo

Savage

Sixth

Something Dutch

Tri-Tone

Weasal



Team Captains will create team name and chat for their teams.


GAMES


Teams pay buy-in for each player to enter an event. There will be an event prizes such as champion points and cash for teams and for players to rating points.

EVERY TEAM START WITH CASH OF: 10000

We play different games everytime, so, everyteam needs warzoner's, powerballer's, 4v4's, duelers, teamplayers, turreter's.


Games that going to be played: Chaos league, Warzone, Rzjpl, Powerball, Turret wars, DZA, Conquest, Shipwars, 1v1, Elimination, 2v2, 2v2v2v..., 4v4, 4v4v4v4, 8v8, 8v8v8v8, The Final War(teamwars).


Sign in for tournament here with a nick and team u wish to join. You can contact me in game with msg also - Captor, or Captor+.



TEAM MANAGER

Manager handles all player movement. Leads the team by doing player trades, controls team money, seeks for good players with low salary to buy and sells overwaged players, also picks team captain. Captain can be changed after every round, if manager want to. Captain and ass. captain sould be managers right hand in team.


If manager is asked to sell a player to other team, the manager has 3 choises: a] Sells player and gains player (value) from other team. b] Deny the offer. c] Suggest a trade for that player.


RULES FOR SELLING A PLAYER

Manager is locked to squad, so can't sell himself.

Hi. I thought it might be fun to try and have another tourney soon, be it dueling or 2v2 or even a Turret War/CZL type game. 

 

Yes? No? Shut up Swamp thing?

Standings after R13:

1    FTNguyen    12-1    104    0.491

2    Requiem    12-1    92    0.525

3    Sterling    10-1    52    0.532

4    Nuke    9-4    58    0.513

5    Assassins    8-5    50    0.479

6    Llamas    8-5    18    0.486

7    Rebels    7-6    9    0.533

8    Gods    4-9    -37    0.508

9    Alpha Reunion    3-10    -88    0.521

10    ReDS    2-3    1    0.558

11    Unhallowed    2-11    -54    0.539

12    StarFire Elite    1-12    -90    0.527


Round 13 results:

5/12 3:34 pm    Llamas     def     StarFire Elite    12-5    log

5/12 3:29 pm    FTNguyen     def     ReDS    12-5    log

5/12 3:26 pm    Gods     def     Alpha Reunion    12-5    log

5/12 2:42 pm    Assassins     def     Unhallowed    12-6    log

5/12 2:40 pm    Requiem     def     Nuke    12-2    log

5/12 2:30 pm    Sterling     def     Rebels    12-3    log


For comparison, the 3pm/4pm shifted matching schedule from round 2:

2/17 2:40 pm    Llamas     def     StarFire Elite    12-6    log

2/17 2:12 pm    FTNguyen     def     Shocktech    12-0    log

2/17 2:05 pm    Rebels     def     BYE Round    12-0    log

2/17 3:55 pm    Requiem     def     Nuke    12-6    log

2/17 3:55 pm    Assassins     def     Unhallowed    12-6    log

2/17 3:02 pm    Alpha Reunion     def     Gods    9-7    log


So.. let's see. Llamas have gotten 1 death worse.. ReDS are 5 kills better than Shocktech. Sterling is much stronger than a BYE Round. Assassins and Unhallowed have remained exactly the same. Requiem has gotten 4 less deaths better. Gods have gotten totally excellent, and now defeat Alpha Reunion.

Well, anyways. Psyanide carried llamas, at least on the stat page. Also, 0 wr for Llamas over 5 deaths. Nice.

FTNguyen vs. ReDS was a rather sad game. Ahmed tried his best to get to 72 virgins (only got to 5, ho ho ho, c wut i did?), but ReDS just... weren't there. They can play a much better game. They just somehow fell apart.

Alpha Reunion showed up! Hooray. Then they lost to Gods in a game no one saw. 9-Volt breaks the pattern of only people included in the game talking (!items), but we got this

 Nude For Sa> i think i got a kill, subspace history


Unhallowed and Assassins seem to have been going for some sort of a record in killing as many people as possible in one spot. Check the kill chart, slightly above the triangle.

Nuke's roster is more rebellious than that of Rebels, spectating their game to "not play for this idiot" (meaning Dre). Nuke didn't have much going even before Dre died out though. Oh, Nacre lagged out before that too.

Apparently Dagger stumbled onto the weird bug? glitch? lag related? issue where you register a death on the bot, but somehow at least a few packets here and there go missing, resulting in you either 1) respawning in the same spot with toys but no energy 2) without toys in a warped spot 3) without toys and energy in the same spot. Well, Sterling weren't total dickwads and kill him before Ra subbed him.

Probably a blow to squad morale, but game on. Everyone but Rage seems to understand it. Oh well, after that incident Rebels went on an exploding spree and Sterling picked up the win in under 20 minutes.


Schedule for Round 14, on bots and site:
3pm:

Assassins vs. ReDS -- 115777

Nuke vs. Sterling -- 115778

Rebels vs. Gods -- 115779

4pm:

Alpha Reunion vs. Unhallowed -- 115780

FTNguyen vs. StarFire Elite -- 115781

Llamas vs. Requiem -- 115782

 

If you hadn't figured the logic out yet.. I take the previous round the squads played and work my magic on whether the games are 3pm or 4pm. Ta-da. Now you can predict your schedule 9 weeks in advance.

Standings after R12:

1    FTNguyen    11-1    97    0.491

2    Requiem    11-1    82    0.516

3    Nuke    9-3    68    0.486

4    Sterling    9-1    43    0.53

5    Assassins    7-5    44    0.497

6    Rebels    7-5    18    0.51

7    Llamas    7-5    11    0.511

8    Gods    3-9    -44    0.527

9    Alpha Reunion    3-9    -81    0.535

10    ReDS    2-2    8    0.495

11    Unhallowed    2-10    -48    0.535

12    StarFire Elite    1-11    -83    0.524

13    BYE Round    0-2    -24    0.416

14    Shocktech    0-8    -91    0.524


Results for Round 12:

5/5 3:37 pm    Requiem     def     Rebels    12-2    log

5/5 3:33 pm    Sterling     def     Gods    12-2    log

5/5 3:28 pm    Nuke     def     StarFire Elite    12-1    log

5/5 3:05 pm    Llamas     def     ReDS    6-5    log

5/5 2:35 pm    FTNguyen     def     Unhallowed    12-2    log

5/5 2:10 pm    Assassins     def     Alpha Reunion    12-0    log - no show


Most of the match logs are not related to the matches themselves so getting any info out of them is tricky.

Sika statwhored for Requiem with 7-1 and 6 FR, Rebels haven't been doing too great as of late. Maybe they'll step it up for the (aml?) playoffs.

Sterling beat Gods, who still fly all sorts of funny ships.

Nuke beat SFE 12-1

Llamas ReDS was the highlight of the round. A close game with a team kill in the overtime finish. Good stuff. I do believe ReDS either had their fullsub used on a deathsub, or had the sub lagging out after subbing in... or both.

Unhallowed were nowhere to be found until match time. Valiant effort, but no. The highlight of this game was clearly me genius play of forcing Cycl0ne to run past a door, thus door warping him into a bomb I had fired into the orbit about 40 seconds before.

AR no-showed. One more and we'll have BYE Round again..



3pm:

Assassins vs. Unhallowed -- 115557

Nuke vs. Requiem -- 115558

Rebels vs. Sterling -- 115559

4pm:

Alpha Reunion vs. Gods -- 115560

FTNguyen vs. ReDS -- 115561

Llamas vs. StarFire Elite -- 115562

Standings after half the season:

1    FTNguyen    10-1    87    0.507

2    Requiem    10-1    72    0.507

3    Nuke    8-3    57    0.507

4    Sterling    8-1    33    0.552

5    Rebels    7-4    28    0.476

6    Assassins    6-5    32    0.507

7    Llamas    6-5    10    0.507

8    Gods    3-8    -34    0.504

9    Alpha Reunion    3-8    -69    0.535

10    ReDS    2-1    9    0.49

11    Unhallowed    2-9    -38    0.507

12    StarFire Elite    1-10    -72    0.507

13    BYE Round    0-2    -24    0.427

14    Shocktech    0-8    -91    0.516


Results for Round 11:

4/28 3:54 pm    ReDS     def     Gods    12-7    log

4/28 3:48 pm    Nuke     def     Assassins    12-6    log

4/28 3:34 pm    Sterling     def     StarFire Elite    12-3    log

4/28 2:35 pm    Rebels     def     Unhallowed    12-4    log

4/28 2:33 pm    FTNguyen     def     Llamas    12-2    log

4/28 2:19 pm    Requiem     def     Alpha Reunion    12-1    log


ReDS vs. Gods was pretty even during the few minutes of it I saw. Pog was 0-2 fast, managed to hold on for long enough to ReDS work their magic and get the win. Well, he was still first out, but don't tell anyone.

Assassins had a decent line-up in to start vs. Nuke, but traxx managed to lag out and was replaced by mr. penisguin. He then pretended to be a bee, but floated around nothing like a butterfly and his stings weren't bee-like either. First out, 1-3, ggwpnoreyoloswag.

Sterling 12-3'd SFE, maimer was not rewarded with any kills while forcing 8 repels.

Unhallowed continues on their quest to be the most randomly performing squad. They lost to Rebels 12-4 and it doesn't even look like it was much of a fight. Rebels all have a trillion forced repels and 4 wasted total.

Llamas kind of messed up somewhere along the way, giving Nguyens a four kill lead by 6:48, with one player on their last life. By 13:35 this player is out, and the score 7-1. Apparently we even had hibachi "play".

Requiem probably ran away and lobbed vs. the two players that showed up for Alpha Reunion. Regardless, Requiem gets the 12-1 credit win.


3pm:

Alpha Reunion vs. Assassins -- 115282

FTNguyen vs. Unhallowed -- 115283

Llamas vs. ReDS -- 115284

4pm:

Rebels vs. Requiem -- 115285

Gods vs. Sterling -- 115286

StarFire Elite vs. Nuke -- 115287

Uh, apparently attach did not work!

 

ROSTERS WILL BE LOCKED AFTER THIS UPCOMING ROUND

 

Round 10 results:

4/21 3:59 pm    FTNguyen     def     Nuke    11-6    log

4/21 3:37 pm    Assassins     def     Rebels    12-7    log

4/21 3:30 pm    Llamas     def     Alpha Reunion    12-1    log

4/21 2:54 pm    Sterling     def     ReDS    11-5    log

4/21 2:43 pm    Requiem     def     StarFire Elite    12-5    log

4/21 2:29 pm    Gods     def     Unhallowed    12-2    log

 

FTNguyen vs. Nuke wasn't very intense. We had some squad practices before the game between the squads, so I think most people were kind of done with the match-up before the official practice was played. People were roflcoptering at deaths, even when the score is sort of close. There weren't that many WR in total, but people sort of exploded rather easily. Legacy racked up 9FR and 84k damage taken. At some point in time 7th was at 2k taken, Legacy at 12k.

Assassins finished Rebels in under 30 minutes. esidebob wasted 3 repels and was out after just 11:45. Rebels recently had two baddies jump ship to other squad(s) too. They have some work to do if they want to finish in the upper half of league, and thus the pro playoffs.

Alpha Reunion showed 3 players to their game vs. Llamas, which usually doesn't help much. There were some stats.

ReDS were actually holding their own vs. Sterling at least up to 2-2 at 16:20. Sterling got a few kills here and there, unanswered. At 37:18 and 6-2 ReDS had two people on their last lives, Pempu and Pog. ReDS then entered desparation mode, managing a few kills vs. the toyless? Sterling. The first out is actually only at 7-5 -> 8-5 at 43 minutes. A few more kills for Sterling and Pempu running the clock sealed the game.

SFE also started ok vs. Requiem. 2-2 at 13:13 isn't too bad. Then smurf went on a rampage picking up 2/1 with 4AS 7 FR. Candy whored up the kills.


And finally, Unhallowed showed 3 vs. Gods, who then beat them "12"-2.

 

Standings after R10:

1    FTNguyen    9-1    77    0.506

2    Requiem    9-1    61    0.526

3    Nuke    7-3    51    0.505

4    Sterling    7-1    24    0.605

5    Assassins    6-4    38    0.497

6    Llamas    6-4    20    0.483

7    Rebels    6-4    20    0.5

8    Gods    3-7    -29    0.506

9    Alpha Reunion    3-7    -58    0.511

10    Unhallowed    2-8    -30    0.504

11    ReDS    1-1    4    0.567

12    StarFire Elite    1-9    -63    0.486

13    BYE Round    0-2    -24    0.428

14    Shocktech    0-8    -91    0.517

 

Schedule for round 11:

3pm:

FTNguyen vs. Llamas -- 114954

Rebels vs. Unhallowed -- 114955

Alpha Reunion vs. Requiem -- 114956


4pm:

Sterling vs. StarFire Elite -- 114957

Assassins vs. Nuke -- 114958

Gods vs. ReDS -- 114959

My name is Ron, I was Soul Preacher for about 10 years playing Choas, Premier League, Powerball, Hockey, and A Small Warzone.   I played on Prestige and won acouple titles back in the day with my good friend Dantos.   

 

I was wondering when you guys play this? I would love to join you.   I miss Subspace alot, if it was active I would quit every other game and just play it like I used.   

 

Let me know.

This is a post I wrote over a year ago for the other zone sysops when I thought there was a good chance at uniting them to try and create a place that we could help retain new players. None of the zones do that now - TW used to in the early 2000s. Unfortunately, the major sysops couldn't agree on how it was going to be run, and the effort didn't happen (yet).

The post was reposted by Red_X on the TW forums a while back, so it's been public, but I thought I would repost it here for anyone to see and reference. It is long - I did not write it as a PR effort, but as a full throttle backgrounder for what I think is needed to get new players to stay in the game. To me, the effort is not dead. There are still many possibilities to start retaining newbs again.

--hallu

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The Newb Effort

To reverse the trend of the downward spiraling Subspace population, we must create a situation where new players can immediately have FUN and want to discover the depth of our classic and beloved game. How can we do this?

I. Declining Population

Subspace has been losing population for several years now instead of growing. Why?

Failure to retain new players. We get many new players coming in every day but almost none of them stay. Why?

ALL zones are now inhabited exclusively by multi-year vets, so a newb (meaning a *actual* brand new player) goes 1-10 (over and over), and as any sane human would, leaves. Did this always happen? Why is it different than in years past?

Yes. There is no "newb" zone now. In the beginning, everyone was a newb. Alpha was an _enforced by points_ newb zone. Chaos was enforced by points intermediate zone. Later, TW was the newb zone from about 2000-2005-ish, when it had a population of about 600. Since then, TW has gradually transitioned to what I call a "mature club." This is a common pattern -- I've seen it happen in more than one sports club irl. Chaos has been a "mature club" for many years now.

Why do we lose close to 100% of newbs? The problem stems from a lack of separation of skill levels. Once players are 3 skill levels apart in playing ability, NEITHER player will have fun (unless they are in a noncompetitive, teacher-student relationship). These two players in a situation that is supposed to be competitive, the lower player loses constantly (and doesn't really understand why; not enough experience/knowledge), and the upper player wins easily; too easily. In a "mature club" the new player is driven out, and the older, veteran players stay. The vets say they want new players, but their (understandable/rational) behavior drives them away. In the longer run, the vets will sporadically leave also, creating a slowly spiraling downward population where the club slowly dies, or asymtotes down to some static, low activity level. This is where we find ourselves with SS today.

And this is why I say advertising won't help us atm. Any new players coming in will go into the existing zones and die repeatedly to vets and leave. Some vets even relish killing the newbs over and over and driving them out. Before we start to advertise in earnest, we need a place for newbs to go and have fun.

II. Retaining New Players

How can we retain these new players? And when I say new players, I mean *brand* new. If the person has been there a week and/or is playing regularly, they are not new; they are intermediate; they are already captured. We need to focus only on the actual new players; capturing them, and getting them to the point where they can start to compete in the easiest arenas.

In any video game, you get about 1-5 minutes to capture a player. Usually within 1 minute the player is either having fun, or wants to leave.

I've tried a number of things to get players to stick it out in Chaos until they are competitive (which is approx 2-3 months of daily play; 1 month for the exceptionally talented - historically Chaos only gets players who 'graduate' from other zones). I've tried spending hours with a new player over a series of days, showing them the skills, getting them to understand energy management, etc. Doesn't work. I can get a very few to stick around for a week or three, but that's it. Most still leave within 5 mins after dying a few times.

I've thought extensively about a handicapping system for chaos/svs. I have some very interesting/cool ideas, but every handicapping system I've seen irl has sucked and can be gamed -- and I think we have even more challenges making one work within an anonymous video game. My handicapping system is more suited to a new zone, not to a legacy SVS zone.

Several of the zones already have a "newb arena" of one sort or another. All failures... This is not an easy thing to 'get right' -- a newb does not want to read text, or just fly aimlessly around. They want to get in and play, understand what's going on, and feel in control.

The only thing I've seen work is for a new player to be brought in by a friend who holds their hand for those dozens of playing hours while they learn. But that is extremely rare. I tried to revive this team oriented behavior by recreating squad stats and Reset Winners in Chaos hoping that would spur squad leaders and members to recruit and train people. Hasn't happened in 1.5 yrs -- not nearly enough anyway.

The solution is for the club operators (the sysops) to enforce a separation of skill levels -- at first at least. Allow the vet players to be teachers if they want (most don't, really). How can we do this?

We need an Alpha again. A zone/arena where newbs are _forced_ to go at first, so they can:
1) play other similarly skilled newbs (only!)
2) get training from helpful vets
3) have fun, feel powerful and in control immediately!

III. Why Do Newbs Stay?

What do newbs want when they come in?

1) They want to have FUN, feel in control, and ideally, powerful
2) They want to understand the basics of what's going on; it's ok to die if they understand why it happened
3) They want to "win" which usually means "kill someone" early on. If they can't win, they should feel like they could if they play a little better -- AND they understand what the 'little better' means.

IV. How to Give Newbs this Fun

How can we supply this?

Side note: Vets understandably don't recall what it's like when they first entered the game. It is absolutely overwhelming for newbs -- explosions, the chat, walls, bombs, ships flying around, the spam, the bewildering array of icons and controls.... What's important?!?!? Energy? wtf is that? 90% of the time, newbs won't talk to me _at all_ which is mostly because they don't even realize someone is trying to talk to them -- what is green text anyway?!?!?

We need to make sure that only a minimal set of 'important stuff' (aka the stuff they want to do) is assailing the newb when they first come in. A relatively empty/quiet arena is an advantage here.

There are a number of ways to go here, and we need user testing (I'm big on actual data, not what ppl imagine new players will do) to see what works best. One way is to have a series of arenas with tasks to help the newb learn the minimal basic skill set. Another way is to have it all within one arena (can it be separated sufficiently?) We'll need to do some creative thinking and testing here to find what works for most newbs. Again, actual interaction/play is CRITICAL. Reading or listening to a vet describe what to do is not good enough. They need to start 'doing stuff' right away (#1 2 and 3 above).

V. SS Skill Set

What is the minimum SS skill set?

Here is a task analysis of the ss skill set. Please comment about it -- I'm sure it can be improved.

1) Where am I? Identify your own ship. Put all newbs in the wb at first
2) How to fly? Arrow keys
3) How to start to control flight? Pick up greens or flags or fly through openings.
--this marks the first minute -- newb should have picked stuff up within the first minute

4) What is a wall? What happens when I hit it? e.g. Navigate some passage.
--some players will be happy to fly around and get a feel for controls at this point. But many will not. They will want to start to try and kill stuff.

5) How do I shoot? ctrl to fire bullets; tab for bombs;
--now a player could go against another new player, or a bot, or a sacrificial lamb of some sort.

6) Why did I die? The concept of energy management.
--here is a critical juncture in the learning process. In one shot kill zones, the answer is obvious because the game design has been simplified. In the more advanced zones, where it takes concerted dmg to kill someone, it is not so obvious, but completely critical. The answer is actually the same -- your energy went below 0.

I've had some success training newbs in this by giving them energy view in a dueling box. Then having them shoot and watch their energy go down. Then close bomb a wall and see what happens to their energy (critical for zones with prox bombs). Then shoot another player and watch their energy go down until they die.

I'd like to give newbs energy view at this point, but we have to make sure that wiley vets can't abuse this to get energy view in a 'real' arena inside the hosting zone.

7) How do I kill? Energy management again.
--If we deal with #5 well, this is a non-factor -- they already know the answer. At this point conveying to them that vets are _very_ good at this, is important. This helps the newb understand why they died but the vet did not.

At this point, the newb is fully ready for combat against similarly skilled players. They may wish to return to the basics to figure things out further; ask questions of the vet/teachers. Have them do many duels now.

Side note: We want the vet/teachers to have prestige; certainly within the newb arena, but also within SS. Other vets should be thanking them for their time. Maybe giving them the title of Sensei? Ideas here? :)

8) How to repel? shift ctrl
--this is the most powerful, and powerful-feeling toy going.

Now, we're post Newb.1, and into Newb.2 - if they are still around, they are having some fun and can be captured as long as they're not dumped into the 'deep end of the pool' for a while.

9) What is the square in the lower right? Radar.
--how to get the bigger picture. At this point the question of screen resolution comes up. The Sensei should help them get the best resolution (bigger is better in general).

10) How to attach/turret? F7
--this is a critical thing to learn early. It gives the newb a sense of team, and can help a new player learn how to aim and shoot, and conserve energy without worrying about flying.

That is the minimal set. Now I'll list the remainder of abilities/toys in approximate order of importance (def needs improvement):

11) Thors

12) Rockets -- powerful!

13) Bursts

14) Portals

15) Antiwarp

16) Greening -- maybe this should come earlier.

17) ?status -- relate it back to greening

18) Cloaking

19) Xradar

20) Bricks

21) Bouncing Bullets

22) Prox

23) Flags -- remember that newbs won't be up to flagging for a while, so this can come later.

24) Bounty

25) Decoys

26) Concept of bomb and bullet levels

27) Balls and passing; Goal scoring.

That about covers the entirety of SVS sans bot cmds. I am not trying to address in-game tactics (yet).

VI. How do the Newbs get to the Right Place?

How can we get the newbs to the Newb-Only arena?

Every zone will need a bot to identify new players, and quickly (~5-10 seconds) *sendto them to the newb arena.

How does the bot NOT send vet players there?

Several things can be done to not send vets there:
1) If the nick has never been seen before by the bot (or is marked as a Newb in the DB), they might be a new player.
2) The bot will have a command: !vet which will prevent the bot from sending the new player, and permanently mark that name as a vet. Vets will learn this command very quickly.
3) If the player does a ?go quickly, they must be a vet -- mark them as such.
4) If the nick has >50 hrs usage, they are a vet.
5) If the player belongs to a squad, they are a vet.

#2 above is the ultimate fall back for vets to not be bothered.

What happens if a vet goes to the Newb-Only arena? A bot there should do similar tests to those above to prevent malicious vets from chasing off newbs. If a player comes in, and immediately starts fighting and killing the other newbs, they are a vet. Spec them. The Sensei's should be able to ID vets from their play and *spec them and such.

VII. Newb Arena Staffing and Location

All SS zones should try to provide Sensei's to staff the newb-only arena. We do not want this to be a single zone effort. I view this as an SS-wide effort that can help us all. I do not want to own this, or be in sole charge of it. I will do what I can to help get it off the ground, but I think it absolutely needs a person completely dedicated to this effort (which I cannot do -- I have too many other irons in the fire).

It makes the most sense to me to house this inside TW. I understand some people's reluctance to do that, but TW is under new management, and I think is more open minded about the health of the game in general. To me, if I see 600 ppl in TW again, I'm going to be seeing 100+ in Chaos again too. I don't want people having a zero-sum mindset about this effort (i.e. your zone gains a player, means my zone loses a player -- a negative and false way to view most of the world's systems). We must all agree and be sure that it is not just a training area for TW play alone. If we can all get hooked up on the arena sharing system, then it doesn't really matter where the newb-only zone is hosted. All active arenas will be easily, and equally accessible.

VIII. Promotion and Advertising

Once we have the newb-only arena up and going and having some success, we can start to advertise and have it make a difference -- the new players that come in will have a much greater likelihood of having fun and sticking around.

I see this being the precursor, and also dovetailing with the SSBR effort, which is one version of the PR side to revive the game.

IX. Conclusion

Ok that is the core of the idea. I'm sure there are many improvements and refinements we can make. Perhaps some of this unworkable. I've probably forgotten some major items.

My sole concern is to get more ppl playing this great game in all its myriad forms. Thanks for participating. Open for comments!!!

--hallu

Standings after Round 9:

1    FTNguyen    8-1    72    0.483

2    Requiem    8-1    54    0.555

3    Nuke    7-2    56    0.474

4    Rebels    6-3    25    0.488

5    Sterling    6-1    18    0.605

6    Assassins    5-4    33    0.473

7    Llamas    5-4    9    0.49

8    Alpha Reunion    3-6    -47    0.509

9    Unhallowed    2-7    -20    0.515

10    Gods    2-7    -39    0.528

11    ReDS    1-0    10    0.422

12    StarFire Elite    1-8    -56    0.446

13    BYE Round    0-2    -24    0.423

14    Shocktech    0-8    -91    0.514


Round 9 Results:

4/14 4:10 pm    Requiem     def     Assassins    8-6    log

4/14 3:59 pm    Llamas     def     Gods    12-2    log

4/14 3:48 pm    ReDS     def     Alpha Reunion    12-2    log

4/14 3:10 pm    FTNguyen     def     Sterling    8-7    log

4/14 2:50 pm    Unhallowed     def     StarFire Elite    12-5    log

4/14 2:34 pm    Nuke     def     Rebels    12-2    log

 

This time I'll be schedule first, recap later. But all the games were bad and mostly uninteresting :p

That late recap..

 

Requiem vs. Assassins was a slow paced game, like most of Requiem's games seem to be. Assassins made more errors and exploded more frequently. Three statwhored his way to 5-1 and 4 FR. 8-6 Requiem.

Llamas picked up a 12-2 win vs. Gods' leviathans. Yes. They had at least two in at one time. Weezie was a leviathan for all three lives. Every other god ship changed at least once during the game.

ReDS beat Alpha Reunion 12-2. The stats or log don't give much insight as to what happened besides THC probably playing way over aggressive (first out, 5 fr) and Hendrix's bot skills

Hendrix> !setlagout greg

FTNguyen vs. Sterling was also painfully slow. Freebies were once again granted, kind of both ways. We tried to go for the traditional 0-2 lead for the enemy, but ended up overdoing it for 1-4. Got it back to 4-4 between 22:13 and 23:40. By 32:29 and 6-6 FTNguyen would have 3 people at 2 deaths, TVB with none. Sterling at this time had two people at 2, two at 1. Eventually the game goes to overtime at a 7-7 score and TVB on a toyed up ship. I reckon we had the advantage on toys besides just TVB.

Unhallowed beat SFE in a rather regular looking 12-5 fashion. Nadai onyly bothered to repel twice. SFE on the other hand only wasted 2 repels total.

Rebels didn't seem to put up much of a fight vs. Nuke's stack of baddies. 12-2 in a game where Dagger was dead twice in under 6 minutes isn't exactly the most convinving loss. Even my good friend Seriel Killer failer to serially kill people. In fact he failed to land a single bullet



Round 10 Schedule:
3pm

Gods vs. Unhallowed -- 114581

Sterling vs. ReDS -- 114582

Requiem vs. StarFire Elite -- 114583

4pm

Alpha Reunion vs. Llamas -- 114584

Assassins vs. Rebels -- 114585

FTNguyen vs. Nuke -- 114586